Toronto Raptors at Charlotte Bobcats 11/25 [Archive]

spectre

11-25-2009, 04:07 PM

Law might be activated tonight (http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2009/11/law-might-be-activated-tonight.html)

Might get our first glimpse of our other new acquisition. Not going to get my hopes up...but hell, with the way his competition has been lately he might go from unwanted to a rotation player.

I hope there's a link tonight...don't feel like doing the gamecast thing again.

Oh yeah, I think we kick Raptor butt. Our defense is going to limit their high powered offense and we take the win.

ohara831

11-25-2009, 04:25 PM

My hope is that TC gets 2 quick fouls, so LB plays Nazr the majority of the 1st half. If he is having another good game, maybe LB will keep him in and we have more offensive output. INMIT

Chrystos

11-25-2009, 04:48 PM

My hope is that TC gets 2 quick fouls, so LB plays Nazr the majority of the 1st half. If he is having another good game, maybe LB will keep him in and we have more offensive output. INMIT

Dang it! Larry Brown still refuses to start Narz. :banghead:

cls77

11-25-2009, 04:59 PM

cls77

11-25-2009, 05:00 PM

Muttley

11-25-2009, 05:27 PM

Anyone know radio information for either Greensboro/Raleigh/Durham or Wilmington? I'm taking the less-than-conventional 85/40 route to Raleigh from Charlotte to pick up the lady and then to Wilmington to see the folks. My outlook for catching Cats past Charlotte is doubtful...

Also looking forward a game here but if there are any Wilmington fans on the board that want to meet up somewhere for the Cavs game Friday let me know!
I used to get it on 790am and, I think, 620/850 in the triangle area. Not sure if that changed with the new Charlotte flagship station, but scanning the AM dial should find you something.

CatNation

11-25-2009, 05:30 PM

got a couple $10 tix ill be rockin my dj autographed jersey in section 223 :biggrin:

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 05:32 PM

Law participated in Wednesday's shootaround and is expected to be active Wednesday night against Toronto, the Charlotte Observer reports.
Spin:
Law has not been active for a game since joining the Bobcats last week in a trade from Golden State.

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 06:59 PM

The Raptors aren't even an American team....No way I can cheer for them.

Lets Go Cats!!!!

More UPS And Lexy!!!

spectre

11-25-2009, 07:04 PM

http://www.rwbsports.com/ch1.html

This is the same guy who cut out most of the 3rd quarter last time around. Hopefully we'll get to see the entire game.

spectre

11-25-2009, 07:14 PM

Wow, TC came to play!

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 07:15 PM

With Wallace and Capt. Jack posting up Dj could have been deadly this year....:(

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 07:15 PM

AA and Diop are out

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 07:20 PM

Every body clap your hands

:clapping:

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 07:22 PM

Boris is hurt...Derrick Brown time!!!!

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 07:23 PM

Diaw is limping and AA is out, will Brown or TC play the 4? Please no Wallace.

Marvel

11-25-2009, 07:25 PM

Crash stinks at the 4.......rather have S-Jax there

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 07:27 PM

Brown and Hendo are in. TC is on a tear.

x2pacalypse

11-25-2009, 07:27 PM

To hell with boxing day

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 07:27 PM

Gerald " People's Elbow " Henderson has checked in.

Two great blocks by Tyson!!

spectre

11-25-2009, 07:28 PM

Say what you want about TC...but we've never had anyone play this well in the paint vs. Toronto. He's smacking everything.

x2pacalypse

11-25-2009, 07:31 PM

including chris bosh's shoulder

by the way this feed is mad choppy does anybody know of a better one?

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 07:31 PM

With Diaw out I hope LB is forced to play UPS more. That man tries to dunk on someone in every single game.

spectre

11-25-2009, 07:35 PM

DJ won't last long doing that.

That was a good pass tho.

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 07:38 PM

23-20 end of the first......It's been a good game. Looks like the Cats came to play today.

Marvel

11-25-2009, 07:39 PM

Say what you want about TC...but we've never had anyone play this well in the paint vs. Toronto. He's smacking everything.

...........and he's got 2 quick fouls:g:

Walt Cronkite

11-25-2009, 07:40 PM

...........and he's got 2 quick fouls:g:
They weren't that quick. 8 minutes played might be a new record for him on the Bobcats.

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 07:41 PM

Hey guys, do you think AI is done?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4690266

Walt Cronkite

11-25-2009, 07:43 PM

Hey guys, do you think AI is done?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4690266

I can't believe he's not trying to get a nice pay day and play the season overseas.

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 07:43 PM

Lets Go Cats!!!

Henderson almost hit his head on the rim on the dunk

spectre

11-25-2009, 07:44 PM

...........and he's got 2 quick fouls:g:

Look at Bosh's line...0 for 2.

I like the looks of us this game so far. Everyone seems to be able to do what they like to do.

Nice ball movement! And UPS with the slam!

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 07:45 PM

Hendo with the jam!

spectre

11-25-2009, 07:47 PM

LOL yeah, I think it was Hendo!

And Flip is the PG isn't he? Having Jax is paying dividends.

Marvel

11-25-2009, 07:49 PM

Hey guys, do you think AI is done?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4690266

............yeah it's sad that he has to go out like this funny thing i was just thinking about AI today and how he could really really really really really help us get to our 1st playoffs.I mean he has been a dickhead but i mean so has Michael Jackson and everybody still loves him.He is a great player and he deserves to be in the HOF i just hope he can come around and sign with a contender to get his 1st and probably only championship ring.I take back everything i said about dude too. AI is a legend.

Marvel

11-25-2009, 07:51 PM

What did i say people we need to run more....... Hendo with his 2nd dunk

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 07:51 PM

A star died today but another is born. Hendo FTW

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 07:52 PM

............yeah it's sad that he has to go out like this funny thing i was just thinking about AI today and how he could really really really really really help us get to our 1st playoffs.I mean he has been a dickhead but i mean so has Michael Jackson and everybody still loves him.He is a great player and he deserves to be in the HOF i just hope he can come around and sign with a contender to get his 1st and probably only championship ring.I take back everything i said about dude too. AI is a legend.

Come again?

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 07:54 PM

Come again?

I bet that's not what the little boys said.

Too soon?

Marvel

11-25-2009, 07:57 PM

Come again?

.........Wikipedia take a look

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 08:01 PM

We owe this little lead we have now to the bench and the rookies.

And of course Crash

spectre

11-25-2009, 08:01 PM

It'd be really nice to pick up that 3rd on Bosh.

21 fast break points...gotta be a record for us this season.

GoBobs

11-25-2009, 08:05 PM

damn that feed is chopy can't even watch it

spectre

11-25-2009, 08:09 PM

That's a trip...it's not skipped once for me.

And that's the way to close out the half! Man we looked good on both sides of the ball!

Nazr with 7 boards in 8 minutes!

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 08:13 PM

I really hope we come with that much energy in the second half. Bosh sounds like a gorilla with all that grunting trying to bait the ref into calling something. The rookies have looked good 2 night. Nazr came to play, thankfully. Tyson started all this off, but as usual he's in foul trouble.

Please basketball Gods and Jesus Shuttlesworth, Please lets us continue to play with this much energy.

GoBobs

11-25-2009, 08:16 PM

52 pts are you sure this isn't the end of the third quater

ALong13

11-25-2009, 08:17 PM

Well just tuned in and now looking at the box score...Chandler must be doing good on defense with 3 blocks, but once again his offense sucks :-/ Jackson and Wallace seem to be tearing it up, and nice to see Henderson & UPS getting some time..

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 08:29 PM

Gerald Wallace: The Man

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 08:31 PM

Take Boris out, He can't move

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 08:33 PM

Ok nevermind :biggrin:

Shrimpy_Jackson

11-25-2009, 08:33 PM

Oh my god I fucking love Stephen Jackson

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 08:33 PM

Take Boris out, He can't move

He just had a nice drive.

ALong13

11-25-2009, 08:33 PM

Chandler should have went to the foul line on that one shot, he got mauled...but its unreal how much Jackson helps this team, forces double team and then there is the open shooter....I'm loving it

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 08:39 PM

lol at the people who wanted to trade GW

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 08:40 PM

What is GW's all time high?

ALong13

11-25-2009, 08:40 PM

What a dunk w/ the foul for Wallace! Nice run we got here, lets keep it going!

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 08:40 PM

Wallace is dunking on people with his mouth piece hanging out....Tonight is a good night I needed this.

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 08:41 PM

What is GW's all time high?

42 pts

He won't get that tonight

ALong13

11-25-2009, 08:42 PM

What is GW's all time high?

Wallace's Career high is 42...he's at 29 now

ALong13

11-25-2009, 08:45 PM

crap my stream just got blocked!

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 08:46 PM

Diop and AA being out might come back on us

GoBobs

11-25-2009, 08:46 PM

ahhhh.......the feed!

spectre

11-25-2009, 08:46 PM

crap my stream just got blocked!

Mine too...and no audio. :mad:

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 08:47 PM

Tyson looking like Okafor tonight...5 blocks and a season high

spectre

11-25-2009, 08:48 PM

Back! Good...don't want to miss this!

ALong13

11-25-2009, 08:49 PM

Back! Good...don't want to miss this!

Mine too! Thank God for French streaming!

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 08:50 PM

Our game better make the highlight reel

ALong13

11-25-2009, 08:51 PM

18 pt lead going into the 3rd Quarter! And what a rebound and dunk by Derrick Brown!

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 08:52 PM

Our game better make the highlight reel

I think that last dunk by UPS is going on the Top Ten tonight on Sports Center

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 08:54 PM

Brown ftw!!!!!

Chef

11-25-2009, 09:01 PM

just logged on, at the in-laws saw the bottom line on espn. who are these guys and what happened to my bobcats?

spectre

11-25-2009, 09:01 PM

Guess I'm paying for such a sweet feed before...now this one is buffering every few seconds.

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 09:02 PM

Wallace and Jackson coming back, But I would leave the rookies in. I mean how often do we get a lead like this?

Marvel

11-25-2009, 09:04 PM

just logged on, at the in-laws saw the bottom line on espn. who are these guys and what happened to my bobcats?

............Toronto's defense is the worst in the league

spectre

11-25-2009, 09:08 PM

............Toronto's defense is the worst in the league

But their offense is near the top isn't it?

Defense > Offense. :p

ALong13

11-25-2009, 09:10 PM

............Toronto's defense is the worst in the league

Still though they got some good scorers, they should really be closer than the amount we are doing, thats got to be credit to the Bobcats...We have 12 BLOCKS and 12 STEALS

GoBobs

11-25-2009, 09:10 PM

combo of better offense and bad defense by the raptors, not every team is going to double stephen jackson in the mid post.

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 09:11 PM

It looks like Law is going to finish the game.

Marvel

11-25-2009, 09:13 PM

But their offense is near the top isn't it?

Defense > Offense. :p

Fair enough...................and TC is a big part of that oops did i just commend TC i think i did i think i did.37 fast break points ooooohh weeeee i love it

ALong13

11-25-2009, 09:14 PM

Looks like the man guys are coming out and I even saw Law in uniform, maybe he sees some time...

Maybe a Law, Henderson, Graham, Brown, Nazr line-up

spectre

11-25-2009, 09:15 PM

Nah really, you were right in that it's their piss poor D that's causing this. Notice Crash's stellar game...and hasn't every basket he's made been point blank? It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to keep him from making 30+ like he did.

I do think our stellar D caused them to get discouraged early tho.

ALong13

11-25-2009, 09:16 PM

Well Chandler is still in...well here comes Nazr, but 6th Block tonight for Chandler...his D was great tonight

Marvel

11-25-2009, 09:20 PM

This is getting ugly, 30 point lead.........us................................... ..... we have a 30 point lead:D

spectre

11-25-2009, 09:20 PM

Raps fan on RGM Raptors board:

We're so bad I think Larry Brown might come in the locker room and yell at us

:hysterical:

They are in serious meltdown mode!

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 09:21 PM

Diaw is being very manly on the bench with his legs crossed.

millst2

11-25-2009, 09:22 PM

I love the fact we are breaking 70-80 points a game finally:) Jax made a definite impact on this team on both sides of the ball. I think the raptors thought they were going to waltz in here and smoke our bags. Cats are on the move.

Good D, 24 sec violation.

GW for All-Star,. I have voted every day :)

Marvel

11-25-2009, 09:23 PM

Diaw is being very manly on the bench with his legs crossed.

That's how the Frenchies do it

millst2

11-25-2009, 09:23 PM

WOW what the fuck,, hahahahahaha

Alley Ooppppppppppppppppppppp

What a way to close that game out

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 09:24 PM

HOLY SHIT. I cant wait for this postgame report

ALong13

11-25-2009, 09:24 PM

All i can say is wow, what a game! If this team could play anything like this consistently they could be a very special team!

ammofan

11-25-2009, 09:27 PM

Great great great great great game!!!! Our dunking was INSANE tonight.....

Sick game by Gerald too! Double-Double!

ammofan

11-25-2009, 09:28 PM

WOW what the fuck,, hahahahahaha

Alley Ooppppppppppppppppppppp

What a way to close that game out

Yup! We need to do this every single night!

GoBobs

11-25-2009, 09:28 PM

best game of the season by far now we just need to get dj going

BETCATS

11-25-2009, 09:29 PM

Thats what i call a good ole fashion ass whuppin!

btw any of you want to fire Larry Brown / trade Felton now?

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 09:29 PM

Who else thinks AC Law looked to be in more control then DJ?

GoBobs

11-25-2009, 09:31 PM

dj doesn't look great but ac didn't look like anything special if we are giving up on dj I want ai

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 09:32 PM

Who else thinks AC Law looked to be in more control then DJ?

Yes he did, and i like his size. I just hope DJ can get out of that slump.

rsxnova

11-25-2009, 09:33 PM

dj doesn't look great but ac didn't look like anything special if we are giving up on dj I want ai

AI is going to retire

spectre

11-25-2009, 09:33 PM

Soooooo many good things to take from this game! Chandler/Nazr blocking shots...Crash driving/rebounding...NINE TOs for the GAME!

Bench scored 42 freaking points! Jax with 6 assists...and they weren't the generic ones either; they were smart tight passes!

What a great win!!!!!!!!

Ghost Kat

11-25-2009, 09:40 PM

AI is going to retire

:cry:

He will be missed

ohara831

11-25-2009, 09:43 PM

Missed the game. Turned for the scores and my mind was blown! What an explosion of offense and apparently good defense. Thought we might win, but never expected something like this!

BRNC

11-25-2009, 09:44 PM

My hope is that the folk who want to "blow up this team" will let it be...we have the talent just give it a chance...we needed a guy to take the doubles off Crash and Jax is that guy...now we all get to see what this team really can do...and as a side note I really hope Diaw stays hurt...I for one would rather have UPS playing...

Chrystos

11-25-2009, 10:21 PM

I can't believe this is the biggest win in franchise history. I'am so happy to have actually watched it. :clapping:

GoBobs

11-25-2009, 10:49 PM

Tyson looked great on D and everyone was running the floor the team had 16 blocks, but the biggest stat is the nine turnovers.

G-Force for MVP

11-25-2009, 11:41 PM

really glad i went to that game it was DUNK CITY!!!

Keetch

11-26-2009, 12:06 AM

Whoa

I went to my first game for this season tonite, against the Raps, with a lot of curiousity about this team; most of it the worrying kind of curiousity.

No worries though; at least for the moment. The Bobcats played a phenomenal game.

Game notes:

The Cats were breaking down court with nearly EVERY defensive rebound. It was completely surprising and amazing to watch. And they were finding each other down court. That emphasis led to LOTS of easy baskets. Our team speed was exceptional! Particularly Gerald Wallace and Gerald Henderson. Hendo's speed and hops are really something to see. He got so high on one dunk that he literally flicked it down, two handed through the hoop. Pretty freaking crazy.

There are NBA teams that know how to clog the middle and mitigate Wallace's offensive attack. Toronto isn't one of them. It was clear from the first minutes of the game that this was one in which Crash could take it inside and score at will. The Raptors are big enough inside; but they're offensive, shooting bigs that are very soft on defense. Our whole team attacked them inside.

Chandler started the game off with great intensity and energy. That had to help team morale from the get go. The guy played a good game.

When TC had to sit; our rooks Derek Brown and Gerald Henderson kept the mojo going; streaking up court and flying above the rim.

The system of play tonite seemed to de-emphasize our Point Guards. There simply wasn't much stopping the ball or weaving it around. Plus there were plenty of times that Wallace or Jackson brought the ball up, though most of the times Wallace brought it up, he just took it to the hole. Why not? No one was going to stop him. For the most part, the ball movement was direct and right at the defense. Very efficient against a poor defensive team.

The Raptors were clearly lacking effort tonite and thankfully we took advantage. Toronto was not a team in the mood for a game.

Overall the Bobcats played very entertaining above-the-rim basketball tonight; the kind of bball that's sure to win over many fans; if they can keep it up. Kudos to all the Cats; but especially to Gerald Wallace, for once again showing that you can take over an NBA game when it's there to take; to Stephen Jackson, for not passing to TC!, and fitting in so soon; playing so well and unselfishly; to Gerald Henderson and Derek Brown, welcome to the NBA guys, you're gonna be just fine.

There were big smiles on the players faces at the end of the game and on the head coaches face as well. Maybe this crew is going to be okay after all.

Maybe, just maybe, this was a turn-around.

BRNC

11-26-2009, 12:28 AM

We have enough gifted athletes (with Jax here now) that we can/should any other team into the court on any given night...I just hope we use this offense rather than the slow down half-court crap we've seen until now...we have the "legs" and we need to use them...

TheBeagle

11-26-2009, 01:08 AM

really glad i went to that game it was DUNK CITY!!! Seriously! It was like a Bobcats highlight show taking place live!!! So many damn nasty dunks...it was just insane. And to get to see my boy Derrick throw down two nasty dunks was the icing on the proverbial cake, especially the breakaway two-handed double clutch reverse after the steal.....I hope I didn't injure the gracious BCP member whom I sat with smacking him around after that dunk :biggrin:.

Of course a big part of it was playing a team on the second night of a back to back and their not being a strong defensive team inside in the first place, but a lot can be taken from this game in the sense that we can RUN; we have the horses to run from starters down to the bench. I just have to give kudos to Larry for letting his horses loose and run the Raptors out of the TWC in historic fashion. I don't know what they finished with, but at one point the Cats had 35 fastbreak points; don't know the record but that has to be close.....that's freakin' ridiculous!!!
What is so great is that this offense outpouring was a result of fantastic defense. Tyson with 6 blocks; Raymond 3 steals; GW 2 and 2; Derrick's long arms of the law with 2 and 2; Nazr with 3 blocks; I think everybody that played had at least one steal or one block. Just great defense; what more can you say?

And yeah, being able to see Larry cutting up with Jack, and the rest of the team laughing was a treat!

This, along with the Pacers win may be a turning point; but then with this being the Bobcats, you never can tell. However, this was one damn fine night to be a Bobcats fan! Thirty-five point wins......I could get used to this :cool:

polarcat

11-26-2009, 01:15 AM

Just got done watching the game on DVR after work and I'm so glad I didn't hear a score leak. That was some serious ballin' and we looked complete tonight. Our starters did their parts, the bench was amazing and Acie wasn't a scratch. Maybe all this team needs is a little practice time with each other for chemistry. If TC could just add some offensive punch, he would be a beast of a center. Henderson and Brown stepped it up big time, Crash blew my mind, and Jackson tore it up too. I too am digging UPS' energy and wondering if we could slowly up his playing time and possibly run him at the 4 on a more permanent basis. Henderson looked like a big time player tonight and should start seeing more time too. He threw down some monster jams and played some stellar D. Great all around game 'Cats!! It's insane what a difference Captain Jack makes to this team.

Toocool

11-26-2009, 04:30 AM

Damn shame I missed the game, will try to find a game stream or something later.

From the stats line though:

- 9 turnovers...only 9 turnovers.

- TC, being a beast on defence with 6 blocks. That's what we're paying him for, that and 9 rebounds. If he stayed in the game, I'm sure he could have competed for a double double of rebounds/blocks, possibly triple double with points/rebounds/blocks if he could of held down his fouls.

- Hendo and UPS, getting huge minutes. Each with around 20 minutes, that's great for experience. Hendo scoring well also with 15 points and I'm looking forward to what he can produce. UPS as well. Seems that UPS will have a nice steal then a highlight dunk afterwards, and the reverse dunk was sweet.

- Crash was playing like a starving man with a ball going after the christmas chicken (the hoop). Huge game of 31 points and 13 points.

- Mohammed is solid like always. Great backup center to have.

- Good to see Acie get some burn. Not much, but better than nothing

- Great to see a huge win. We can now see what the potential this Bobcats team has.

Lets keep it up Cats!

bing!

11-26-2009, 06:15 AM

What? Cats on the opposite end of a blow-out?? ... I've been away for far too long.

Must be the drugs.

ziggy

11-26-2009, 07:03 AM

It was a great time at time warner arena last night. My son and I had awesome seats thanks to to Dav7z. THANKS!!!!!

Check out the view from the dav7z seats:
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/bobcatsplanet/CIMG0029.jpg

I got to witness a slam dunk fest by the Bobcats ( two of the made ESPN's top 10 ), and we are on the right side of a 30 point blowout. To quote my 7 year old son "Good times, man"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9X3zKwyuCg

spectre

11-26-2009, 07:57 AM

Good times indeed!

One point not being discussed is how well Felton played; just like always when the offense isn't being laid on his back (either by his choice or more realistically...by necessity) he's a solid PG who brings great defense. His counterpart had 8 assists but 6 turnovers and only hit 3 shots...generated mostly from the perimeter screens the Raps run. Felton had 0 turnovers.

On one play, the pass was going to Jose and Felton went for the steal but didn't get it (if you caught the vids on BobcatsBreak you would know that getting steals for breaks was a focus in this game). Jose took off for the basket, Felton recovered and rode his left shoulder all the way to the basket forcing a tough layup that he missed. Felton then runs the floor and gets the layup on a fast break.

Another guy who deserves some major shout out is TC. He set the tone early in the game by blocking Bosh's 10 footer in the paint, and from then on out Bosh was very leary of trying to take it straight at him. If he can continue the play he's had in his last two games I think the angst of losing Mek (who went 2 of 6 last night) will diminish significantly.

Two players we usually require to have a good game in order to win was Boris and Flip. Neither were a factor in this game...yet we STILL blow out the Raps by 35!

When we play like we did last night...with everyone stepping up on offense and moving the ball like we have been our starting group runs very well. Add to that our new found depth and it's starting to look like there is some hope in Charlotte.

KT#20

11-26-2009, 11:55 AM

Well, Okafor also had 13 boards, 2 steals, and 3 blocks during a victory against a team who humiliated us not too long ago. I do agree, though, if Chandler can just provide defense and get put backs on offense, I'll be happy. With that said, I hope Mohammed keeps getting close to 20 minutes a game. He's playing out of his mind right now, no reason to cut his minutes just because Chandler is back.

Felton has been playing very well. 10 assists and no turnovers these past two games. Now, obviously, he can't exactly keep up that, but there's no reason why he can't keep the turnovers at 2 or below every game. I've noticed we're not running the pick and roll as much, which is probably for the best. So many of Felton's turnovers have come out of pick and rolls. If he can focus on getting Jackson, Wallace, and Diaw the ball, and then just picking his spots to score, he's a nice offensive player for us. Really, I thought all five of his misses were good shots. Hopefully some of those mid-range shots and floaters start dropping. If so, we could see 14 PPG on 45% shooting.