What Exactly Happened To DJ?

I guess I'm not an idiot then, b/c am not taking Jack out of the equation and stated very clearly that I wanted Jack back in the game. Conversely, if you think that Felton had no role in us getting the lead down to 4 and us being in the game....

The point I have REPEATEDLY made that you refuse to digest is that I wanted the combination of the assertive Felton who was playing in the 2nd half with Jackson on the floor. That combination along with Gerald Wallace (to a lesser extent Boris and Nazr when healthy) were consistently a part of the team's success. Your points are so polarized that you refuse to move anywhere away from the extremes. I have not made either/or propositions and yet you twist people's words around because you only demonstrate 2 speeds, 0 and 120.

No one is talking about who is a better player or any other crap, but you keep conveniently shifting the discourse when you can't retort what's being said.

The only point made was that there were many reasons why this team got swept when it played and that making rash decisions does not make sense. Similarly, there many reasons why it got the playoffs.

This team came out the block struggling due to having 3 unhealthy starters and it turned around in large part to 2 of them being replaced by healthier and much more productive players when Jack came in for Raja and Nazr came in for Tyson Chandler, while he was hurt. They had just missed the playoffs the year before and quite possibly would have if Raja didn't get hurt at the end of that season.

You sir are the only one talking about shipping folks out b/w the 2 of us, so again, save that strawman for someone else.

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Originally Posted by DY_nasty

If you think that we could've won Game 1 without Stephen Jackson coming back into the game, you're an idiot. Its just that simple.

If Kobe shoots 20%, you don't demand that he gets shipped out. If Bosh goes without a rebound until the 3rd, you don't say that Amir Johnson is a better player. If Joe Johnson goes down, you don't say that Atlanta is a better team without him. If the Rockets scrap and make it to the 2nd round, you don't automatically assume that they're a better team without Yao. Some guys earn their paychecks just by stepping on to the court, and this season, Stephen Jackson has been that guy for us every single night.

He's not here and we're fishing in the lottery again, not to mention unanimously lol'ing at the idea that Felton is worth keeping around. Now that Jack comes in and makes life easier for all, you're really going to go after him because of just one dimension of his game?

... you guys might be lost. After watching crappy basketball for so long, you think that career role players should get the same treatment as top 10 players of their position.

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Where did you say that you wanted Jackson back in the game in this thread? All I saw was more Felton jock-riding and more shots at Jackson's field goal percentage.

Felton had a role alright. He was Jameer Nelson's toilet paper.

But whatever, start another thread for Raymond Felton's White Knight Club. An assertive Raymond Felton is the equivalent to an assertive <random insignificant role player>. He's gone anyways, I just don't understand why people make excuses for the guy for 5 years when all he's shown is that a)He'll never be that good here OR b)he's destined to be Andre Miller Lite for his entire career. Dude still has no clue how to get to the line and he can't shoot for crap, what is he good for?

Just start another thread. I much preferred the rumors of DJ's homework getting in the way of practice.

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Originally Posted by SWedd523

If he returns to his rookie form then you're exactly right. He can fill in admirably . Be careful though Marvel, you don't want be labelled as a DJ homer.

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So be it.I know this kid can play as a starter in this league and he has got some serious potential.I definitely see some Jameer in him-edit: (posted after i read the OrlandoJuice thread.Don't worry about Teej he wouldn't know a good player if one came up to him and slapped him in the face),with a slightly better passing game.He just has to get stronger.

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Originally Posted by Marvel

Don't worry about Teej he wouldn't know a good player if he came up to him and slapped him in the face

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Love you, too, Marvel. :rolleyes:

What you saw was your issue. I wrote clearly that I wanted Jack back in the game along with an assertive Felton. You missed it and continued to talk in attacking generics. I don't deal in polarized black and white thinking. I can see the good and bad in both players and their performance and will speak on both and how it impacted games and the series. The same goes for the rest of the players and the coaching staff. Trite script regurgitation and scapegoating is not my cup of tea.

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Originally Posted by DY_nasty

Where did you say that you wanted Jackson back in the game in this thread? All I saw was more Felton jock-riding and more shots at Jackson's field goal percentage.

Felton had a role alright. He was Jameer Nelson's toilet paper.

But whatever, start another thread for Raymond Felton's White Knight Club. An assertive Raymond Felton is the equivalent to an assertive <random insignificant role player>. He's gone anyways, I just don't understand why people make excuses for the guy for 5 years when all he's shown is that a)He'll never be that good here OR b)he's destined to be Andre Miller Lite for his entire career. Dude still has no clue how to get to the line and he can't shoot for crap, what is he good for?

Just start another thread. I much preferred the rumors of DJ's homework getting in the way of practice.

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Originally Posted by 110oldeast

What you saw was your issue. I wrote clearly that I wanted Jack back in the game along with an assertive Felton. You missed it and continued to talk in attacking generics. I don't deal in polarized black and white thinking. I can see the good and bad in both players and their performance and will speak on both and how it impacted games and the series. The same goes for the rest of the players and the coaching staff. Trite script regurgitation and scapegoating is not my cup of tea.

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Felton sucks. Deal with it.

Moving on...

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Originally Posted by teej

Love you, too, Marvel. :rolleyes:

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Ew that's disgusting.Swedd won't be happy and slightly jealous you said that.