I like this trade a lot for us. But no way the kings will get rid of Big Cuz, dude has hella potential he's the 2nd best center in the league (minus Bynum)Quote:
Originally Posted by isguros
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I like this trade a lot for us. But no way the kings will get rid of Big Cuz, dude has hella potential he's the 2nd best center in the league (minus Bynum)Quote:
Originally Posted by isguros
Why does anyone like this trade? Outlaw is an average underachiever. James Johnson turning into a journeyman and doesnt add that much. Wroten is an okay prospect but nothing special. I know this gets us rid of Diop, but why not just wait and amnesty him next year.
Also lets not forget about Perkins, OKC were happier to get rid of Harden than trade or Amnesty Perks. He is massive to that team in more ways than numbers, he has taught the team toughness and togetherness. There would be a lockeroom revolt if he was simply traded away for a headcase like Cousins.
On other news, anyone see the Kings being interested in a simple swap of Henderson for T- Robinson?
They have Thompson locked up long term and don't really have a strong defensive 2 guard- I am not sure how much the Kings like Robinson with his below average start to the season.
On my last try I was a bit too ambitious, sorry for that, perhaps it'll be better this time around:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bqgetm7
Bobcats out: Reggie Williams
Bobcats in : James Johnson
Sacramento out: James Johnson, Francisco Garcia, Travis Outlaw
Sacramento in : Reggie Williams, Drew Gooden
Milwaukee out: Drew Gooden
Milwaukee in : Francisco Garcia, Travis Outlaw
P.S.: is this the thread for definitive trade ideas or the definitive thread for trade ideas?
can't happen for another 2 weeks but i would consider some sort of trade with the bulls with sessions:
sessions for hinrich, nazr, and our pick back?
bulls don't really have many guys i'm that interested in, maybe marquis teague. thought they had stashed some european big man, but looks like i was wrong about that. but they would be a logical landing place for sessions or even gerald henderson, maybe somebody can figure out a 3rd team to bring in.
That might be a bit much for Chicago but I think it has some possibility.
In order to get our pick back, we'd probably have to take a bad contract (Boozer).
Sessions and Tyrus for Boozer and our pick might work.
Sessions and Diop for Boozer and our pick would definitely work, but that's one hell of a price.
Sessions and Gordon for Boozer, Hinrich, and our pick would probably work too, but that's still a huge price.
I'd do Sessions and Tyrus, but the others I probably wouldn't.
are the bulls trying to hold serve until rose gets back or are they resigned to sitting rose all year (the most prudent thing and the thing i would do without question or hesitation)? if they are just playing out the season, they won't give our pick back unless we did sessions and diop for boozer and pick. then again, can't they amnesty boozer?Quote:
Originally Posted by SWedd523
even though both teams gm's know the pick will probably end up being a mid to late lottery or worse by the time it is used, chicago would be foolish to let it go unless they had a good free agent plan for boozer's salary.
i would also prefer getting assets with sessions not erasing mistakes. let the pick go and pray we improve enough to make it only an "ok" pick.
The Bulls are holding serve until a more definite timetable for a Rose return can be set. It is loosely estimated to be in mid March right now. If the Bulls are hanging tough around .500 at the trade deadline, I think they will keep the team intact except for a minor trade involving a rarely used bench player or two. This way, if Rose comes back and gets into form by the playoffs, the Bulls will be a tough out even against Miami or NY.
Can't really say I disagree with you, I was just throwing out a number of scenarios I see as most likely in a trade with Chicago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chef
Now that I look at Boozer's salary commitment, I probably spoke too freely saying I'd do the Sessions and Tyrus for Boozer and our pick deal. He would, though, go a long way into alleviating our post scoring woes. That might not be something I'd do now because it seems a bit "win now", but I think it gets more enticing next year depending on how well our draft goes.
Or we could just amnesty Tyrus and be done with it
I have lost track which trade thread this should go in, so just going to put it in both. Come at me Mods!
TRADE 1:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ayaojaj
Bobcats in: Arnett Moultrie/76ers 2014 1st rounder/ Sacremento 2013 2nd rounder
Bobcats Out: Gerald Henderson
76ers in: Henderson/ James Johnson
76ers out: 2014 1st round pick/ Arnett Moultrie/ Dorrell Wright
Sacremento in: Dorrell Wright
Sacremento out: James Johnson/ 2013 2nd rounder
Maybe get a 2nd for Sacremento from somewhere... not sure if they do that but I like the framework. Got the idea after Doug Collins came out saying he wanted some bench scoring, at first I thought Gordon but his salary didn't fit for anyone so went onto Hendo.
TRADE 2:
I can't trade machine this one as Sessions is not tradable until the 15th of Dec but the details are below, little more simplistic than the one above.
I have been thinking about Tyreke for Hendo a lot to be honest. I am a massive fan of Evans, I know his game doesn't fit any system and he doesn't have a position but didn't people say similar things about Kemba? I think Dunlap would go back to Evan's rookie year and break down the tape to see his strengths, much like he did with Kemba at UCon.
I keep hearing Evans is on the block (along with Jimmer and James Johnson). Plus Sacremento doesn't really have a good defensive two guard, they have however recently given Thornton a 7.5 3 year contract though, but they are bringing him off the bench at the moment, my guess is he got a contract and got lazy- he seems to fit that character from what I have seen of him. Hendo could also play some 3 for them as at the moment none of their small forwards are anything to write home about ( Salmons, Outlaw, Honeycutt, Garcia).
But anyway, ontot the trade. Somethin like:
Hendo/Sessions
Tyreke/James Johnson
This would allow us to play with Tyreke as ball handler and let kemba play off the ball (like we do with sessions) but gain in the the height/ rebounding/ which would help us quite a bit. Tyreke would pretty much just fill the role Sessions has now but give us more on the defensive side and give us some more ft attepmts (Dunlap's own form of Viagra it appears).
James Johnson is a decent defender and gives us another PF who can do some good things, I have always been impressed with him when I have seen him play. But I am sure theres a reason he has never cracked a rotation in SAC and been on 3 teams in 4 years.
Feel free to give or take from this trade, even add another team in if you want but I like it :smilie:
Only negative is we could lose Tyreke to FA for nothing...
If The Kings Offered it?
Cats Get: Cousins & Robinson
Kings Get:Biz,Jeff Taylor,and Mullens + Blazers & Pistons Pick.
New Roster:
PG:Kemba/Sessons
SG:Henderson/Gordon
SF:MKG/Williams
PF:Robinson/Tyrus/Warick
C:Cousins/Haywood/Diop
To me I would do it easy it would suck to lose Biz but to get a center like Cousins would make up for it.