Post up an ”Offers for Ben Gordon” thread on the RGM trade boardQuote:
Originally Posted by spectre
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Post up an ”Offers for Ben Gordon” thread on the RGM trade boardQuote:
Originally Posted by spectre
Gordon will Not be getting a contract with an annual salary of 13 million anytime soon so I think he we would have to be a fool not to pick up His option for next year. I expect him to be here next season and that's when I also expect us to start working on a trade involving him . With his ability to score in bunches and his 13 million expiring deal he would be a really big asset for a playoff team as a bench player.
Expiring deals are one of the best things u can have in this day in an age of the NBA when it comes to making deals . Teams will take expiring contracts of players with a lot less talent then Gordon in heartbeat , so if a team can get a player that can actually help their playoff run and also knock 13 million off of their salary cap then they are going to deal for him in a heartbeat
Having Diop's 7.5 mill expiring this year is a really big asset for us and should net us a really solid player or a draft pick. And this is for a guy who has 1 of the worst contracts in the NBA and who is an absolute bum . Having Gordon's 13 mill expiring next year is like having the golden ticket . We received Gordon and what will be a very high 1st round pick for sorry ass Maggette and with soo many teams in salary cap hell I fully expect Cho to get something really good in return for Gordon
I honestly don't see a team making a deal for Gordon and Tyrus bc that defeats the purpose of getting An expiring contract when u are adding Tyrus's contract as well ..even though I would love to unload Tyrus I just don't see it happening anytime soon. I don't think the front office traded for Gordon bc they see him as part of our long term plan ..it was just a way for Cho to have more flexibility going forward.
It is somewhat risky waiting until next year bc maybe the $$ isn't that important to him and he just wants to win . That is a risk we might just have to take if we want to get the most out of a trade for him ....but honestly Gordon doesn't strike me as a guy who would pass up that amount of $$ just to go to a playoff team ..especially when he can get the $$ and just wait another year and then have his choice of going wherever he wants ...maybe we could approach him and ask him what his plans are concerning his player option and go from there ..I'm sure the FO will make the right move and will get a good player or pick for him and won't just let him walk for nothing ..I'm pretty sure that was the whole plan when we initially traded for him ( renting him for a season and a half and then dealing him for another player and pick like we did with Maggette ) ..I have faith in Cho and look forward to seeing what happens with him but in the meantime hopefully he can help us win some basketball games
so does every gm in the league. he will return a first and a 2 year bad contract (or at best a 5 mil expiring and 7 mil 2 year bad deal).Quote:
Originally Posted by spectre
ok. first all we have to do is find a $20 million contract that is so bad the other team is willing to take on tyrus AND give us a first. other than amare, that contract doesn't even exist. boozer would be next at $15 mil but no way the bulls take back tyrus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfpackbobcat
Why would I want to get laughed off the board?Quote:
Originally Posted by SWedd523
I'd honestly move him for an expiring, but maybe some contender might throw a late 1st (like 25th-30th). Like some said above I think we're stuck with him thru at least half of next season.
It'd have to be a good chance for a nice pick before I'd take on even more salary...maybe another re-do of the DET trade that'd cost us one extra year.
...and there's NO WAY he opts out of 13 million.
I'd do that if the FO is willing to eat the salary AND the pick has a good chance of being good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chef
agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Stylesg1234
disagree. there are not many teams that need to unload a ton of money. in fact, this free agency period should see a shit-ton of terrible contracts because there a bunch of teams with alot of money to spend. i do not expect diop's contract to give us anything much more than a late first unless we are willing to take on a 2 or 3 year bad contract. it seems that the teams with bad contracts also have low payrolls like phoenix and aren't looking to make a run anytime soon so are ok just filling the minimum salary and sucking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stylesg1234
gordon could fetch more because he is actually contributes, but there isn't a "going for a playoff spot or contending team" with a bad salary and their own draft pick. golden state would be a good candidate, where they give the cats richard jefferson and their pick for gordon but their pick belongs to utah. then a team like okc or utah who have good picks (okc has toronto's) don't have a need or a terrible contract that would entice them to give it up.
lastly, bad teams have no need or desire for gordon's contract. the only thing i could even remotely consider happening is if we offered gordon and diop and the blazer's or pistons pick for okafor and ariza and washington's 2014 #1 unprotected.
I just typed a huge email explaining a trade and it didn't show up so, I'm not going to type everything again with the explanations but, here is the short hand
Charlotte Trades:
Gordon
Diop
Charlotte receives:
Paul Gasol
Lakers 1st
We get our own 1st round pick back from the Bulls
Why for Charlotte:
We get a real post scorer whose contract ran the same length as Gordon's, frees up time in the backcourt now that Hendo is healthy and we get 2 first round picks and it only costs us $6m extra against next years salary cap.
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Lakers Trade:
Gasol
1st rounder
Lakers Receive:
Carlos Boozer
Why for the Lakers:
Gasol doesn't fit the offense, Boozer would. The Lakers are trading away $40 Million in contracts and getting back $45 million but, the $'s are spread over 3 years so it saves them money against the luxury tax.
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Bulls Trade:
Carlos Boozer
Charlotte 1st rounder
Bulls receive:
Gordon
Diop
Why for the Bulls:
The Bulls just signed Taj Gibson to a contract extension and this will free up playing time for him but, the real reason the Bulls do this is they save 16.8 Million in Salary Cap space in the 14/15 season. That $16.8M could easily equal $33.6M in real dollars because of the luxury tax..... They take a hit on talent for this season but, this frees up cap room in the future and allows them to save a boatload of money and it only costs them a player that they don't really like and the Bobcats pick.
i hesitate to respond not wanting to start a trade discussion that isn't in the trade forum, but this trade wouldn't pass on nba 2k let alone by actual gm's. even isiah thomas would laugh you off the phone.Quote:
Originally Posted by JGib23
you responded before I edited my explanations.
Trades in the NBA aren't about equal talent.. they are about Salary Cap and Luxury Tax. Chicago could possibly save $34 Million dollars in 14/15.
I think Boozer is a better fit in LA... Of course the Bulls and Lakers wouldn't neccesarily need us to do it,so we may have to sweeten the pot to get in on it.
Of course you may be right... It's just that I'm accounting manager, so I put more emphasis on the $'s than I do the talent.