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Actually you can't in the NFL any longer. The owners changed that after the Oakland-Tampa-Gruden fiasco.

Thanks!!!!!

Anyone know the protection breakdown for the 1st owed to Chicago?

The biggest thing I don't like is that it's Nazr we'd part with instead of Diop (I understand why it's that way but...), but I guess we can't get rid of ALL our bad contracts in one swoop.

Oddly enough, I think there's merit to what James heard. How he lays it all it, it has a ring of truth to it. The only part I find hard to believe is the Detroit back-up plan.

I wasn't trying to 'go so Columbo' on every word you wrote, it's just the way you worded that previous post it sounded odd.

So wait, you're saying that your "source in Charlotte" is another message board user? :g:

I was actually looking over there at someones four step plan and I noticed one major problem...part of it included combining a TPE with some players to get 2 more expensive players.

You can't...

5 years, 40 mill

As I said earlier, what is on ESPN is his BYC for trade purposes going by the info from storytellers.

The way you're doing it (taking what ESPN has listed and adding his prorated signing bonus...

Can't explain what the Star Ledger and Rotoworld are listing it as, but I can ESPN...the amount they have listed is the BYC value for trade purposes.

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Noticed you edited yours. You're...

Per hoopshype it's 12 mill the first year, but per storytellers it's 6.8 mill the first year.

http://www.storytellerscontracts.info/resources/10-11salaries.htm

Personally I trust storytellers...

I just had to edit my previous post. It would actually be more salary than that in 2011-12 & 2012-13 (I didn't have salary numbers plugged in those years for TT, so it's safe to say it would be at...

Don't get me wrong I like the thought of the trade on the court, but salary wise with the uncertainty of the labor situation I think it could end up a bad move.

It would push us over the luxury...

I'd be fine with Ellis, but not so much with Biedrens. The two together would account for 80 mill over the next 4 years. The two together just doesn't seem like a smart move salary wise IMO.

Thanks for clearing that up Tamb, I was looking over my notes and still had us over 60 mill in salary.

From Bonnell's comments on his blog...

Though I wonder what CP3's production would look like without him. :g:

It's hard for me to classify David West as a scrub or a bad contract given his production.

1st- why do we need another pg?

2nd- you do realize Tinsleys deal is worse than Nazrs don't you? he makes more money AND is guaranteed next year whereas with Nazr there is the possibility he opts...