If there's one thing that was confirmed in the Miami game....

[110oldeast]

Again Slam, I'm not even that hung up on the officiating in this particular game by any means. I am speaking again more to a long-term trend. It really makes zero since how often Felton goes to the hole with contact and no call. Further Boris, plays a very old school type of game fundamental game which you would expect to lead him more protection from the refs. That "push off" was a definite turning point that we OVERCAME, but to act as if it's not worth addressing is something I can't agree with. Because you aren't always going to get a chance to overcome calls late in the game. In a final posession situation, if you are fouled, you need to be able to have a foul called. Putting it in the players' hands should still mean putting it in their hands within the rules. Furthermore, if you are going to "let them play" don't call Diaw when he doesn't even extend the way most players do on that drive.

I think that it is something that a coach is supposed to work on and at times pre-emptively. That said, I realize that LB's fine and big slap on the wrist from the NBA FO early on has somewhat neutered him here. I think the Bobcats have actually gotten better in terms of respect as a team. I agree with the OP however, that the 2 players mentioned have not however.

It fits win or lose.Why get hung up on something you have no control over and something that doesn't effect the outcome of the game?Get annoyed at DJ missing a tech FT or Felts missing 1 of 2 to ice the game or Boris for passing a few times instead of shooting when he is under the rim.* Those are the things we can control and directly effect the outcome of a game.

[110oldeast]

I said on another thread that DJ draws as much respect from the refs as anyone on the team other than Jack and Gerald.

How about the charge DJ took in the 4th when he clearly was moving his feet to get in front of the player? That was a game changing call as well. All the calls clearly didn't go against the Bobcats tonight

[bozzy]

Further Boris, plays a very old school type of game fundamental game which you would expect to lead him more protection from the refs.

Boris plays so soft that when he doesn't, he is often called out by the refs. In general, the Bobcats get away with a lot of grabbing/holding on defense because they are very aggressive on every play on defense.

[Toocool]

If there was one thing that was confirmed in the Miami game is that Flash is a crying sook. He complains about not getting calls. Well he needs to grow up, sometimes you don't get calls. I use to love Wade, but his attitude stinks now. His comments about us were complete bull crap too. I got four words for Flash. Suck it up Princess.

On the flip side, problem with Boris is that when he fouls, he barely touches the guy. He needs to grab hold of a limb or something instead of just whacking them and letting them get the 3 point play.

Slam, sometimes the refs can make a team win the game. Look at Lakers vs Kings a few years back in the playoffs. Kings got utterly raped because a tiny tap on a hand lead to a foul on Kobe or something.

Dodgy refereeing has been around for years and will still be around for years. We just have to suck it up and keep playing.

[TheBeagle]

No one was getting calls in the 4th quarter. I thought the Bobcats got away with several fouls on Wade as well. For once, I thought the refs handled a big game the way they should always handle it (by letting the players decide the outcome).

Absolutely agree. This was one of the better called games of the year, considering the atmosphere, what was at stake, this was a virtual playoff game (or at least, the closest the Cats have come to one thus far) and it was fairly called both ways, and you can't ask for more. Sure there were missed calls (the Boris offensive foul was bogus; the no travel call on the play where Wade saved it out of bounds to Richardson (I think) who took 4 steps without dribbling before giving it up to Wade for the layin) but they actually let the Cats play defense on Wade without calling foul after foul after foul which is the usual M.O. from most ref crews.

All in all, a great called game by Crawford and Co.

[WAM9]

All in all, a great called game by Crawford and Co.

I have to agree 100%. There were several missed calls during the game but I loved the fact that the refs let them play, especially down the stretch.

Say what you want about the calls, the Bobcats are getting more respect from the refs than they ever have.

[Slam]

Slam, sometimes the refs can make a team win the game.

No, they can't.

Taking good shots, not turning the ball over, hitting FT's, boxing out/rebounding, not committing stupid fouls, playing accountable D - they are the things that make teams win games.

I said on another thread that DJ draws as much respect from the refs as anyone on the team other than Jack and Gerald.

Can't agree with this.

Of course I am a firm believer that when you drive you should ALWAYS look to score rather than look to draw a foul. Sometimes DJ plays for the foul too much. There is no point (unless you get your defender up in the air and you are taking a set J).

Felts used to do it too. I would drive me nuts. He hasn't done it NEARLY as much this season - in fact we hardly see it at all (although it has crept back lately) and look at the results. He's finishing better at the rim than ever before because he's just focused on trying to make the bucket rather than draw the foul.

When he drives like that, with his power, quicks and explosion, he is VERY hard to stop.

DJ can be the same, he just has to learn to use it (like he was last night). With his handles, quickness and creativity he is very hard to stop on the drive.

Don't worry about drawing fouls. Don't worry about what the refs are doing. Just worry about trying to put the ball in the basket.

[Slam]

In saying all that, I dislike Dick Bavetta very much and cringe every time he calls our games - or any game I am watching for that matter!

[bozzy]

No, they can't.

Taking good shots, not turning the ball over, hitting FT's, boxing out/rebounding, not committing stupid fouls, playing accountable D - they are the things that make teams win games.

Huh? There have been plenty of games where star players are sitting on the bench for obvious bogus calls. Refs can have a huge influence over the outcome of a game. When the Bobcats have refs that don't let them use their aggressiveness on defense, it takes them out of their game.

Speaking a refs, they have more influence over NCAA tournament games than the players. Just watch in the next few weeks as a team's best player gets two quick fouls because the officials are afraid to miss a call.

[BRNC]

Doris gets offensive fouls called against him because (replay shows it every time) he "pushes off" with his left arm...every game I watch has questionable calls...and we left too many points by not hitting shots and free-throws...as someone else said "making our shots" makes the refs a moot point and I agree...