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    Smile Greetings, Cats fans!

    (WARNING: OUTRAGEOUSLY LONG POST AHEAD)

    Magic fan here, though fear not, I mean no harm.

    I recently just came across Bobcats Planet. Though I may have arrived late to the party, I wanted to make several points regarding the series, and hopefully, this can be welcomed as an outside perspective as opposed to trolling.

    From what I can derive, there seem to be a decent amount of 'doom and gloom' threads on the main page, namely, "trade felts/diaw/jax/etc." As a fan of a team that experienced an eerily similar playoff experience during the 2007 playoffs, I feel obliged to preach patience, Cats fans.

    Throughout the 06-07 campaign, the Magic were hardly a threat to compete for a playoff spot. Coming off back-to-back 36 win seasons, it was safe to assume that they were primed to produce a similar record. The team went virtually unheard of throughout the season, though that was perhaps for good reason given that we took inconsistency to a new level. We rattled off impressive victories about as often as we caved against inferior talent, but despite the frequent ups/downs, it became apparent that the team had a future.

    Once we were in position to claim a playoff spot, Magic fans like myself contemplated who we'd rather draw in the 1st round, and to no surprise, the overwhelming consensus was Cleveland (Go figure). We were 3-1 against them in our series, featuring one close loss and several blowouts, indicating that they were far and away our most favorable matchup of the top 3 in the East.

    Sadly, to the ire of many Magic fans, we drew the Detroit Pistons in the 1st round, the worst conceivable matchup of any team in the East (or the league, for that matter). That team just flat-out had our number. We had only beaten them once in the previous seven meetings (sound familiar?), and they had an answer for seemingly every punch we gave them. They were simply our kryptonite, a team that presented a fantastic defensive front court and dynamite guard play, most notably from the PG spot.

    No one predicted that series to go past 4 games, and as fate would have it, it didn't. At the time, the complexion of the Magic team was radically different than the one we currently have. We featured little to no outside shooting beyond inconsistent threats like Jameer and Hedo, whereas Detroit boasted a starting lineup with four outside threats (Chauncey, Rip, Tay, Sheed) and a defensive beast in Big Ben. Jameer, who had been solid for us all season, was taken behind the woodshed by Chauncey Billups, a far more experienced guard. Save for one game 3 explosion, Nelson was more or less thoroughly outplayed by Billups in nearly every facet of the game.

    We may have lost 4-0, but the series was far closer than the sweep would indicate. We stayed, for the most part, toe-to-toe with the Pistons for much of the game, until they would inevitably pull away in the 4th like customary procedure. The team, the fans, and the franchise felt dejected and demoralized at our first playoff appearance since acquiring Howard/Nelson in 2004. Although most expected the result, Magic fans expected more out of our team, especially given that we had game 4 wrapped up and would up squandering the lead during the final two minutes of the game to a team that simply knew how to execute better. Naturally, most fans wanted a new look after that series, in which our stagnant/predictable offense let us down big time. Hedo was a chucker, Jameer was a shoot first point guard, you name it. Despite heavy demand to acquire new wing players, we maintained our core role players (Hedo, Jameer, Dooling) and approached the offseason looking to add a few acquisitions here and there. We did just that with Lewis/SVG, and promptly rose to the top of the East.

    What I'm trying to convey through this insufferably long anecdote, is that your team has the right foundation. Wallace/Jackson are as devastating a wing combo, both offensively and defensively, as there are. Gerald is obviously the heart of the franchise, but I IMPLORE you to keep Jackson. Jax shot poorly, but the guy's a nightmare for opposing fans. I can tell you I wasn't the only Magic fan whose heart skipped a beat when he attempted the three during the waning seconds of the 4th quarter in game 3. The guy played the best defense on Vince that I've seen from a wing all season. He's still a fantastic two-way player. As for Felts, well, I can't say. The Magic never had a bright prospect like DJ Augustine backing up Jameer. It'd be sad to see him leave this team given how competitive he is, but I can see reasons as to why you'd favor his departure.

    Admittedly, this Bobcats team is FAR better than our squad in 06-07. The offensive production is similar, but the defense isn't even close. Make no mistake, teams built around the principle of great defense advance in the playoffs. You guys just happened to draw a bad matchup. As a Magic fan, I'm glad we faced you early in the playoffs. Our two teams are practically interchangeable with regards to defensive efficiency, so knowing that we've already faced arguably the most prolific defense in the league, we know it can only get easier from here on out.

    This team captured my attention the moment they threw the gauntlet down on Cleveland. I, like you, wish the Bobcats matched up with the Cavs, though perhaps for different reasons, but I digress...

    The Cats (as if this post didn't imply it) became my 2nd team this season after I saw them run the Cavs out of the barn. I would have liked to have been here throughout our series to discuss basketball, but nevertheless, I wish you good luck in the future. With MJ and Larry at the helm, it seems all but evident anyway. I'll be acquiring league pass next season, so I look forward to joining the fray and (hopefully) offering my input on more than one occasion.

    I'd also like to get some outside opinions on Orlando's chances against the Cavs (I feel confident against Atlanta, a team far softer than the Cats) this season.

    Anyways, Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlando Juice View Post
    The Magic never had a bright prospect like DJ Augustine backing up Jameer.
    Your post was brilliant. Please keep posting.

    But DJ Augustin is about as bright a prospect as Greg Oden. It ain't happenin.

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    DJ reminds me quite a bit of Jameer, and it isn't just because of the #14, either.

    He's undersized, has a smooth stroke, is a deceptively crafty passer, and has received (from what I've observed) inconsistent playing time for a guy with his skillset.

    He seemed to run the pick and roll smoother than Felts, but I can't overstate how important it is to have a point guard who frequently penetrates the defense like Raymond does. But back to Augustin...

    As stated before, if he's like Jameer, then he would certainly benefit from having consistent outside shooting threats surrounding him, that way he has more room to operate once he drives through his defenders, and thus, giving him several options on the perimeter instead of simply kicking the ball back out to another dominant ball handler (Jax).

    In my opinion, he's a project, but also an immediate contributor off the bench. I love his style, though I'm also biased, since Nelson's my favorite player.

    Well, I'm off for the night. Hopefully this thread gets some hits in the morning.
    Last edited by Orlando Juice; 04-28-2010 at 12:04 AM.

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    Awesome post!

    Should be required reading for every BCP member (and the hundreds of lurkers).
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    Wow, its pretty amazing how similar our situation was to Orlando's in 06-07, hell it sounds exactly the same. Thank you for posting, this has really brightened my mood, which combined with the Cats recent loss, finals going on, and that terrible Dwyer column, has really been dampened lately.

    So again, thank you, and come back anytime.
    Last edited by ND22; 04-28-2010 at 05:22 PM. Reason: I suck at proofreading.
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    Similarities going even further:

    Playoff Vet pg Chauncey Billups:

    22.3 pts
    7 assists
    2.8 TOs
    52%fg
    40%3pt

    Playoff rookie Jameer Nelson:

    14.3 pts (27 of his 57 pts came in a 16 pt blowout, as he avg. 10 in the closer games)
    3.3 assists
    2.3 TOs
    42%fg
    36%3pt


    Quote Originally Posted by ND22 View Post
    Wow, its pretty amazing how similar our situation was to Orlando's in 06-07, hell it sounds exactly the same. Thank you for posting, this has really brightened my mood, which combined with the Cats recent loss, finals going on, and that terrible Dwyer column, has really been dampened lately.

    So again, thank you, and come back anytime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ND22 View Post

    So again, thank you, and come back anytime.
    Thanks, man.

    The two teams' similarities were almost uncanny. Must be a Southeast division thing, or that we were bound by fate in the 2004 draft.

    Our needs as a team prior to Lewis' signing were always

    1. More bigs to help Dwight
    2. Outside shooters

    The Bobcats have the big man department down pat, but it's clear that they need a more consistent low post scoring threat, unless Diaw is that guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teej View Post
    Your post was brilliant. Please keep posting.

    But DJ Augustin is about as bright a prospect as Greg Oden. It ain't happening.
    teej, I think that is a totally unfair statement about DJ. Was DJ much of an asset this season overall? No. Did he show signs of getting it turned around late? Yes. Should we write the guy off after he had a poor sophomore season? I say no. Last season we were all talking like DJ could take over for Felton and in fact many of us were ready to give him the job. I just think that we sometimes jump the gun and get a bit too critical when it is not warranted.

    I also would like to defend Oden. Greg has had very little opportunity to improve or grow as a player in the NBA. Constant injuries have cost him a ridiculous amount of playing time. When Greg got hurt this last time he was starting to show signs of being a pretty good player. I guess my point is we can not write either Greg Oden or DJ Augustin off just yet.

    On a side note it is not unheard of for players to reach their peak in three, four or even five years.

    I will go out on a limb and say that both DJ and Greg have solid seasons next year. I won't say they will be All Stars but then again that is not necessarily the only standard by which a good season can be judged. I look forward to seeing how my prediction turns out.
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    One of the best posts I've read here in a while and it's from a Magic fan? And still our posters can turn it into negative sniping. The ironic part is this is the arc of most teams trying to make the leap into the playoffs.

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    great post fellow Orlando-ian


 

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