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    This would be less risk than a move for Arenas. A much better over all trade would GS do this? I think SWeed is over valueing our assets but like his thinking.

    I would do it over a Arenas deal if GS bit.


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    Sure the contracts are "long", but they both are only 24/25 years old and they both produce numbers comparable to what they make.

    Trying to foist off Diop who pretty much gives NO production would be a non-starter.

    Beans' injury history would make me hesitate, but looking at his #s when healthy he rebounds better than Okafor and has a comparable TS%. His eFG% has consistently been better than Okafor's as well. For 9 per I think the contract is irrelevant (again, assuming he can stay healthy).

    In regards to Monta I don't think the value is there if the intent is to play him primarily as a PG (LB would kill him)...but if we could make him an offguard for a lot of his mpg teamed with a longer PG like Livingston I think he'd be well worth the money.
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    Problem for me spectre is we don't need an off-guard...we need a PG and (agreeing with you) Ellis plays better at SG this is not an upgrade...I like Beans just fine but can do without Ellis...
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    do it no hesitation.r there any official rumors on this? were getting young talented guys. thats good. i was actaully thinking of something like this before i got on here and saw it was already posted

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    I can't run away from the original deal fast enough. To borrow a phrase from Kenny Smith, I think Monta Ellis is a looter in a riot. Even if he was paired with a taller PG, I just have the feeling he'd get you a bunch of numbers, but they wouldn't ammount to much in the win column.

    Beidrens is Ok, but I'm with Swedd on this...if I'm dealing with GS, I want back what he's suggested, namely Curry. Other than that, I'm not sure the Warriors have much to offer that would be best for the 'Cats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRNC View Post
    Problem for me spectre is we don't need an off-guard...we need a PG and (agreeing with you) Ellis plays better at SG this is not an upgrade...I like Beans just fine but can do without Ellis...
    With Jax's versatility I think we could easily stand another combo. It'd allow us to rest Crash (Jax moves to the 3) & Jax more, and with Jax's ability to distribute (like we'd be relying on him to do if DJ was starting) I don't think it'd be that bad.

    Certainly a better scenario than staying status quo and letting Jax distribute for DJ IMO.

    Hell, Felton was the primary PG but his role wasn't "distributor" with the team last year. His primary purpose was to get the ball over the line and then hand it to Boris or Jax.

    LB might play Hendo more this year, but I doubt he gets serious consistent burn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spectre View Post
    With Jax's versatility I think we could easily stand another combo. It'd allow us to rest Crash (Jax moves to the 3) & Jax more, and with Jax's ability to distribute (like we'd be relying on him to do if DJ was starting) I don't think it'd be that bad.

    Certainly a better scenario than staying status quo and letting Jax distribute for DJ IMO.

    Hell, Felton was the primary PG but his role wasn't "distributor" with the team last year. His primary purpose was to get the ball over the line and then hand it to Boris or Jax.

    LB might play Hendo more this year, but I doubt he gets serious consistent burn.
    Im thinking Monta fits well with JAX. What is Montas shooting %

    http://www.realgm.com/src_playerfile/1118/monta_ellis/

    He shot 45% and averaged 5.3 assist and 25 points per game. I can't see GS trading Beans, But Monta for Damp works
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    45-47% career. Low 30s from 3.

    That 3 % is a negative; with DJ out and Monta in we'd not have a lot of 3 ball threats in the starting group.

    I think he did fit pretty well with Jax in GS. Monta's sick driving/finishing should help a lot of guys (mid to high 50s in the paint per nba hotspots).

    With an actual system besides "cross the time line and jack it up" I think they'd be even better.

    I'm not advocating we do this...but IMO we could do a helluva lot worse.
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    even with his massive chucking he still averages less than 1 assist less per game than Felton, and is probably pretty close to Felton in terms of efficiency while scoring twice as much, though I don't have the stats on that. If he bought into our defensive scheme Ellis could be a big upgrade on Felton

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    Pace is probably the culprit.

    Felton is definitely more of a true PG than Ellis, but like I said earlier we haven't really been trying to have a "true" PG.

    Be nice to though. If we were ever to get our No. 1 target I doubt any of us would ever want to go back.
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