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    Getting back to the C position...

    Reasons for Concern? - QCH

    However, the team defense took a significant hit - when Nazr was on the court last season, overall the Cats allowed 106.4 points per 100 possessions - without him, 100.8 (these numbers include the postseason).
    It is clear that while Nazr's individual defense was passable - the team was very different as a whole with him on the court. The Bobcats aggressive man to man defense and the NBA as a whole's reliance on the pick and roll necessitate a big man who can move his move his feet and deter a driving opponent - Tyson is built for that kind of defense and Nazr is, well, less so.
    Been saying it since last year...TC was the best P&R defender we've ever had.

    Tyson's Defensive Impact

    more at the link.

    Brett promises an examination of the PG spot next...maybe THEN we can discuss them in another thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spectre View Post
    Getting back to the C position...

    Reasons for Concern? - QCH

    Been saying it since last year...TC was the best P&R defender we've ever had.

    Tyson's Defensive Impact

    more at the link.
    Hmm... Perhaps the thought is that Kwame can fill some of that void and furthermore spend more time on the court than Tyson did. How's Kwame's P&R defense?

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    Its too bad that TC could never stay on the court like that, but w/e... if anything, this just proves how bad our C depth was last year.

    Also, sorry if I derailed the thread. I was just responding to stuff, didn't think my opinion would take things so far offtopic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DY_nasty View Post
    Its too bad that TC could never stay on the court like that, but w/e... if anything, this just proves how bad our C depth was last year.

    Also, sorry if I derailed the thread. I was just responding to stuff, didn't think my opinion would take things so far offtopic.
    Thing is everything is in line for TC to have a very good year. Contract's up, has had plenty of rest (didn't he continue to try and play on the toe/injury in NOLA?) and he now has that new custom fitted brace with the time in getting used to it.

    I thought he was looking really good the final part of the season too. It was really a treat seeing him defend that P&R...esp. since I haven't seen it with any consistently in our history. I really didn't want him to leave (fat expiring at the deadline wouldn't be bad either).

    Stuff gets off track all the time. Felton has been argued about so darn much when he was here it seems very immaterial to have debates about him now, at least from my perspective. He's gone and doesn't concern us anymore...now he's the enemy. And I know you didn't bring it up.

    Y'all can start a separate thread called "Felton Sucks". That way I can stay totally out of it!

    Edit:

    I see it's went to "point guard rankings" and I'll just avoid that one...so it's all good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by spectre View Post
    Thing is everything is in line for TC to have a very good year. Contract's up, has had plenty of rest (didn't he continue to try and play on the toe/injury in NOLA?) and he now has that new custom fitted brace with the time in getting used to it.

    I thought he was looking really good the final part of the season too. It was really a treat seeing him defend that P&R...esp. since I haven't seen it with any consistently in our history. I really didn't want him to leave (fat expiring at the deadline wouldn't be bad either).

    Stuff gets off track all the time. Felton has been argued about so darn much when he was here it seems very immaterial to have debates about him now, at least from my perspective. He's gone and doesn't concern us anymore...now he's the enemy. And I know you didn't bring it up.

    Y'all can start a separate thread called "Felton Sucks". That way I can stay totally out of it!

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    I see it's went to "point guard rankings" and I'll just avoid that one...so it's all good!
    TC was going to have a good season this year no matter what. Its his contract year - thats the kind of guy he is. I saw this coming a mile away... I'm just happy that he's not here because he'd no doubt put up 10/8/2 season and demand some fat booty contract from us. He'll probably light it up in Dallas then join the rest of Cuban's overpaid bigs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttley View Post
    Hmm... Perhaps the thought is that Kwame can fill some of that void and furthermore spend more time on the court than Tyson did. How's Kwame's P&R defense?
    Found some stuff

    Kwame Brown's defense can't be the only thing keeping him on the bench

    Here's one way back from 2005:

    Kwame Brown Will Never Reach His Potential.

    Fourth, his defensive game. Kwame Brown is a fair post-defender. He
    denies position relatively well and can force altered shots even against
    the likes of Garnett. However, when it comes to team defense and
    rebounding, Brown slips. He is often late on rotation or simply
    unwilling to help out teammates and offer help defense on dribble
    penetration from a guard or swing man. Blocked shots are nearly
    non-existent because of that. The advantage to not rotating on defense
    is good position under the basket. Unfortunately, he doesn?t box-out as
    well, nor as consistently as fellow teammates Andrew Bynum or Lamar
    Odom. While it?s clear he has all the physical and athletic tools to
    become a very good defender, his progress defensively has been awfully
    slow.
    From 2007 leaving the Lakers:

    Report Card/Exit Interview: Kwame Brown

    Obviously, there's no denying how well Kwame does bodying up the Tim Duncans of the world and denying position. He could be among the league's top five at that particular skill set. But there's more to patrolling the paint than just being an immovable one-on-one force. He needs to rotate better, prevent more layups by guys other than just his man, block more shots and generally create a greater variety of havoc. Even if Kwame becomes nothing more than a poor man's Ben Wallace, no worries. You can do considerably worse than that. But at this point, he's more "Homeless Man's" Big Ben than simply "poor." If defense is destined to become Kwame's calling card, his needs to be better-rounded.
    I dare say he's not that great defending the P&R. It does look like he can lock down his own man though.

    He's a vet min, but he ain't no Theo.

    Tyrus & him might be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DY_nasty View Post
    TC was going to have a good season this year no matter what. Its his contract year - thats the kind of guy he is. I saw this coming a mile away... I'm just happy that he's not here because he'd no doubt put up 10/8/2 season and demand some fat booty contract from us. He'll probably light it up in Dallas then join the rest of Cuban's overpaid bigs.
    But you use that instead of letting it take advantage.

    He puts up good numbers it would only increase his value beyond the expiring at the deadline. That way we get the benefit of the play and the payoff.

    You just don't want to be the one paying the fat contract next year.
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    No matter what happens Tyson is not 12 times better than Kwame. We win

    Unless of course the NBA gives Tyson 3 extra fouls a game on the offensive end of the court (usually when he doesn't have the ball and isn't picking for his teammate with the ball). Then Tyson would be more valuable...until his feet hurt and he needs to take some time (4-6 weeks) to wait and see if all the pain goes away completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlockParty View Post
    No matter what happens Tyson is not 12 times better than Kwame. We win

    Unless of course the NBA gives Tyson 3 extra fouls a game on the offensive end of the court
    Or they elimnated the 3 second violation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spectre View Post
    But you use that instead of letting it take advantage.

    He puts up good numbers it would only increase his value beyond the expiring at the deadline. That way we get the benefit of the play and the payoff.

    You just don't want to be the one paying the fat contract next year.
    Yeah, I posted that exact same sentiment a few months back. I really do feel as if he'll have a good start to the season.

    I wonder who'd have a better trade value though, DUST or contractyearTC...


 

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