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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttley View Post
    Not that anyone should take ESPN's word for much of anything.
    Especially not Raiders fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muttley View Post
    Agreed.

    These rankings would seem to imply though that the ESPN-ers think that Collins will end up earning more minutes than Livingston or DJ. Thus being a better candidate for a fantasy team. That said, how many leagues have 40 PGs drafted? (Outside of BCP's bohemoth 20-team leagues, that is.)

    Not that anyone should take ESPN's word for much of anything.
    I agree with ESPN our points suck , Collins might just be our best option . DJ sure to god isn't.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dav7z View Post
    I agree with ESPN our points suck , Collins might just be our best option . DJ sure to god isn't.
    lol... if only people were willing to give DJ 4 years of excuses like they did for Felton

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    Quote Originally Posted by DY_nasty View Post
    lol... if only people were willing to give DJ 4 years of excuses like they did for Felton
    I'll give him 2 and a quarter (until Christmas this year). The Bobcats are in a different place than in Felton's first 2-3 years. We've made the playoffs, we have the same Cap as other teams. Whether that is DJ's fault or not, it is the reality of life in pro-sports. He needs to produce...NOW. With LB, my bet is before we get out of November, he's made his decision on DJ.

    DJ was so promising, I remember the scrimmage at the end of training camp his rookie season in Wilmington, he nearly broke GW's ankles twice on moves to the basket. He was young carefree and just worried about playing ball. Last season, I'm not sure where his head was, that was his mulligan.

    I wish him the best, but the circumstances are entirely different from when Felton was starting his 3rd season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlockParty View Post
    I'll give him 2 and a quarter (until Christmas this year). The Bobcats are in a different place than in Felton's first 2-3 years. We've made the playoffs, we have the same Cap as other teams. Whether that is DJ's fault or not, it is the reality of life in pro-sports. He needs to produce...NOW. With LB, my bet is before we get out of November, he's made his decision on DJ.

    DJ was so promising, I remember the scrimmage at the end of training camp his rookie season in Wilmington, he nearly broke GW's ankles twice on moves to the basket. He was young carefree and just worried about playing ball. Last season, I'm not sure where his head was, that was his mulligan.

    I wish him the best, but the circumstances are entirely different from when Felton was starting his 3rd season.
    I'm pretty much on the exact same page as you. If he doesn't at least get off to a solid start, then I could see him get traded and wouldn't feel like he was given a raw deal while he was here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DY_nasty View Post
    I'm pretty much on the exact same page as you. If he doesn't at least get off to a solid start, then I could see him get traded and wouldn't feel like he was given a raw deal while he was here.
    He had two years playing solid back up mins . I still can't name ONE point he stoped on the defencive side of the ball.

    We can only pray for Billups or Lawson


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    Quote Originally Posted by dav7z View Post
    He had two years playing solid back up mins . I still can't name ONE point he stoped on the defencive side of the ball.

    We can only pray for Billups or Lawson
    He's had plenty of stops, just like he's had plenty of mistakes - the same can be said for any young point guard. I'm not going to say that DJ is perfect, far from it, but to suggest that he's some complete failure of a project point guard is absurd.

    Still, one bad season under a coach that clearly has some sort of issues with him AFTER he's already had one solid year... it doesn't make any sense at all to give up on the guy.

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    Off the top of my head, I can remember DJ absolutely working Derrick Rose in their rookie year.

    DJ on 12/16
    45 MIN
    .375 FG
    .571 3PT
    13-13 FT
    29 PTS
    7 AST
    1 TOV
    1 STL
    2 REB


    Rose on 12/16
    47 MIN
    .188 FG
    .000 3PT
    0-0 FT
    6 PTS
    7 AST
    3 TOV
    0 STL
    5 REB



    There's just one example


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    Quote Originally Posted by SWedd523 View Post
    Off the top of my head, I can remember DJ absolutely working Derrick Rose in their rookie year.

    DJ on 12/16
    45 MIN
    .375 FG
    .571 3PT
    13-13 FT
    29 PTS
    7 AST
    1 TOV
    1 STL
    2 REB


    Rose on 12/16
    47 MIN
    .188 FG
    .000 3PT
    0-0 FT
    6 PTS
    7 AST
    3 TOV
    0 STL
    5 REB



    There's just one example
    If that's a workout, then there is no more fat lady that can sing. Fat lady just lost 50 kgs to that workout right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SWedd523 View Post
    Off the top of my head, I can remember DJ absolutely working Derrick Rose in their rookie year.

    DJ on 12/16
    45 MIN
    .375 FG
    .571 3PT
    13-13 FT
    29 PTS
    7 AST
    1 TOV
    1 STL
    2 REB


    Rose on 12/16
    47 MIN
    .188 FG
    .000 3PT
    0-0 FT
    6 PTS
    7 AST
    3 TOV
    0 STL
    5 REB



    There's just one example
    Out of a 164 games thats one of only two or three times hes looked decent.
    And what did Rose do to him this past year? He made DJ his Bitch.


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