DUST... Week???

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I'm torn about helping Chicago get Mello. I like Billups, but getting him in a Damp trade would only help us for a year or two AND we'd still be above the tax for this season. We'd also be helping to set up a team that will be able to compete with Miami for years.

Personally I still want to get into a 3 way with Jersey. We'd be helping to set them up as well...but in that scenario we'd be getting Harris, who would be here awhile.

I'm in agreement with you Spectre.

Billups would help us a lot in the short term, but he is 34 years old and that is right around the time when players' games start to collapse and fall off of a cliff ( see A.I. circa 2 or 3 years ago )

[dav7z]

I'm torn about helping Chicago get Mello. I like Billups, but getting him in a Damp trade would only help us for a year or two AND we'd still be above the tax for this season. We'd also be helping to set up a team that will be able to compete with Miami for years.

Personally I still want to get into a 3 way with Jersey. We'd be helping to set them up as well...but in that scenario we'd be getting Harris, who would be here awhile.

Chicago don't have enough tradable assets, Noah not enough Boozer can't be traded . Rose is going no where. At the very least it will take Noah, Deng, and a couple fillers Noah and Deng isn't enough money to get it done along. Denver would not want to take on 5 years 71 milion for Deng
Denver is not going to mess with any thing NJ offers if it don;t include Lopez
NY has nothing to offer Denver
Houston and us have the most to offer . 26 million off this years books can't be overlooked.If we do end up helping assets and or draft picks need to be comeing back to us. We don't need thease other teams they need us.

[dav7z]

I'm in agreement with you Spectre.

Billups would help us a lot in the short term, but he is 34 years old and that is right around the time when players' games start to collapse and fall off of a cliff ( see A.I. circa 2 or 3 years ago )

The good thing about Billups is his contract . Only 3.75 milion is gurnateed next year so he could become another Dust chip if we chose to use him that way.

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Would Billups be satisfied here? I read recently that at this point in his career he is only interested in playing on a team that can compete for a championship.

[GOBOBCATS24]

I would think Billups would be more than satisfied to play for the coach that won him a championship and made him the player he is today

[Demon DeaCat]

I'm in agreement with you Spectre.

Billups would help us a lot in the short term, but he is 34 years old and that is right around the time when players' games start to collapse and fall off of a cliff ( see A.I. circa 2 or 3 years ago )

Agreed, and add to that the fact that he's playing all summer long, thereby expediting his decline. He's only got so many games left in those legs so he's shortening his career as we speak. If that's the best we can do I'd take it, but I'd rather cash Damp in for a guy that could help us more than just a year or two.

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NJ isn't giving up Lopez but it looks like Chicago isn't giving up Noah either. IF they move him now vs the deadline (and I doubt it) I still think NJ has the better package. Without Noah Chicago's offer is crap.

IMO if we got Harris and stayed below the LT I'd be considering this a "win" offseason even with the downgraded C spot.

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NJ isn't giving up Lopez but it looks like Chicago isn't giving up Noah either. IF they move him now vs the deadline (and I doubt it) I still think NJ has the better package. Without Noah Chicago's offer is crap.

IMO if we got Harris and stayed below the LT I'd be considering this a "win" offseason even with the downgraded C spot.

it's not that downgraded when you figure tyson is so rarely on the court due to injuries or fouls. shouldn't it strike him as odd that he is the only actual center on usa's roster and our go to rotation is durant at 4 and odom at 5?

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it's not that downgraded when you figure tyson is so rarely on the court due to injuries or fouls. shouldn't it strike him as odd that he is the only actual center on usa's roster and our go to rotation is durant at 4 and odom at 5?

I'll admit I'm thinking with him being fully healthy for the year which won't necessarily be the case. I just know how Nazr & Gana defend the pick (or attempt to set a screen), and from what I've read Kwame isn't the brightest, and doing stuff like that takes smarts.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/view...?f=2&t=1051804

This is the type of trade I'm thinking about:

NJ out:
Harris, T.Williams, D.James, K.Humphries, 2012 GS #1, 2011 GS #2, 2012 CHI #2, $3m

NJ in:
Melo, Augustin

Denver out:
Mello, JR Smith

Denver in:
Dampier, T.Williams, D.James, G.Henderson, B.Diaw, K.Humphries, 2012 GS #1, 2011 GS #2

Charlotte out:
Dampier, Diaw, Augustin, G.Henderson

Charlotte in:
Harris, JR Smith, $11m TPE, $3m Cash, 2012 CHI #2

Harris / Livingston / Collins
Jax / JR Smith / Carroll
Crash / D.Brown / McGuire
Tyrus / Najera
Nazr / Kwame / Gana

When he originally posted it Henderson wasn't in there, but I do agree we'd never get that good of a deal. I'd rather not take on JR either, but at least he's an expiring.

That 2nd unit's D would suck. LB would probably kill himself.

[BlockParty]

I'll admit I'm thinking with him being fully healthy for the year which won't necessarily be the case. I just know how Nazr & Gana defend the pick (or attempt to set a screen), and from what I've read Kwame isn't the brightest, and doing stuff like that takes smarts.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/view...?f=2&t=1051804

This is the type of trade I'm thinking about:

NJ out:
Harris, T.Williams, D.James, K.Humphries, 2012 GS #1, 2011 GS #2, 2012 CHI #2, $3m

NJ in:
Melo, Augustin

Denver out:
Mello, JR Smith

Denver in:
Dampier, T.Williams, D.James, G.Henderson, B.Diaw, K.Humphries, 2012 GS #1, 2011 GS #2

Charlotte out:
Dampier, Diaw, Augustin, G.Henderson

Charlotte in:
Harris, JR Smith, $11m TPE, $3m Cash, 2012 CHI #2

Harris / Livingston / Collins
Jax / JR Smith / Carroll
Crash / D.Brown / McGuire
Tyrus / Najera
Nazr / Kwame / Gana

When he originally posted it Henderson wasn't in there, but I do agree we'd never get that good of a deal. I'd rather not take on JR either, but at least he's an expiring.

That 2nd unit's D would suck. LB would probably kill himself.

We'd be great at the guard spots and SF, but I'm not sure I'd want Tyrus/Najera/Nazr/Kwame/Gana getting a combined 96 minutes a game. We'd need another big for when Nazr's back wears out.

Tyrus 35 minutes
Najera 15 minutes
Nazr 20 minutes
Kwame 20 minutes
Gana 6 minutes

Just seems scary to have to expect that every night.