What's going on - The return of ballwhore

[UNCCatFan]

here's the thing, and I am not downplaying any posts by ballwhore his track record is pretty good and he does have legitimate ties to the organization, why would denver do this deal? it is pure speculation that it involves either billups or nene. for all we know it could be balkman and jr smith to make the salaries work. either way, the clippers and rockets can offer much much better deals as far as rebuilding plus stars go and if they want to send melo east nj is the better trade partner.

my first thought was they want damp's contract, but they can get that from us and don't need melo to do it. a simple billups for damp + a pick would do it. they can have damp plus get a nice deal from nj, sending melo east, by just including us in the dealings. it just doesn't make sense for denver to do a two team trade involving melo with us.

its hard for me to see denver trading melo to a team in the west

[DY_nasty]

NJ has pieces, a LOT of good pieces, but I doubt they're ready to use up all of their assets just to land one guy. They've laid out one hell of a foundation... it may sound odd to say, but they don't really need Carmelo. In 4-5 years, if they stay their present course, they'll be looking really good anyways.

Charlotte on the other hand... They get Damp, they save a fortune instantly, get picks/prospects, and an all-star back. Hard to argue with that. Especially if they're trying to remain competitive while retooling their roster.

[Chef]

NJ has pieces, a LOT of good pieces, but I doubt they're ready to use up all of their assets just to land one guy. They've laid out one hell of a foundation... it may sound odd to say, but they don't really need Carmelo. In 4-5 years, if they stay their present course, they'll be looking really good anyways.

Charlotte on the other hand... They get Damp, they save a fortune instantly, get picks/prospects, and an all-star back. Hard to argue with that. Especially if they're trying to remain competitive while retooling their roster.

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harris
#1 pick

hardly a foundation. their foundation just won 12 games last year. lopez is the only piece they have that they won't part with. remember, if they get melo, they get cp3. they already have gone on record as saying harris, favors and picks are available for an extended melo. clearly the better deal, plus they can include us to get damp.

[Weezy21]

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harris
#1 pick

hardly a foundation. their foundation just won 12 games last year. lopez is the only piece they have that they won't part with. remember, if they get melo, they get cp3. they already have gone on record as saying harris, favors and picks are available for an extended melo. clearly the better deal, plus they can include us to get damp.

maybe we are playing hardball...but hey if they would throw us billups then i say enuff with the hardball

[Chef]

maybe we are playing hardball...but hey if they would throw us billups then i say enuff with the hardball

that's my point. i am not doubting dj is gone as ballwhore says. i am seriously doubting melo to us for crash, unless denver thinks that keeps their team together enough to compete out west, in that case they won't be trading billups or nene which means we get no better in the end.

i think it will be damp + dj for a pg or damp + dj + nazr for some combo i haven't thought of yet in a 3 team deal with nj, houston or lac.

[DY_nasty]

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harris
#1 pick

hardly a foundation. their foundation just won 12 games last year. lopez is the only piece they have that they won't part with. remember, if they get melo, they get cp3. they already have gone on record as saying harris, favors and picks are available for an extended melo. clearly the better deal, plus they can include us to get damp.

thats not really indicative of the whole situation, they only 12 games yeah, but most of that was the habit of losing. contrary to popular belief, nj wasn't the worse team in the NBA last year - it was minnesota, by a long shot.

Denver was also pretty dead set on Lopez, thats not happening.

[polarcat]

so, 6pm is the magic time according to ballwhore. between jrich, tj/dj swap, and felton walking, i am not rejecting this speculation nor am i resting easy that melo will be a bobcat at the start of the season. i could see us pulling this off if either billups or nene are packaged with melo. i honestly hope the dust chip gets us something solid in return that increases our success rather than a lateral "who gives a shit" move. i like the plan of billups coming in for a couple of seasons to improve our pg situation until cp3 becomes available... with an extended carmelo already in the fold.

....and i just blew a wad.

[Weezy21]

so, 6pm is the magic time according to ballwhore. between jrich, tj/dj swap, and felton walking, i am not rejecting this speculation nor am i resting easy that melo will be a bobcat at the start of the season. i could see us pulling this off if either billups or nene are packaged with melo. i honestly hope the dust chip gets us something solid in return that increases our success rather than a lateral "who gives a shit" move. i like the plan of billups coming in for a couple of seasons to improve our pg situation until cp3 becomes available... with an extended carmelo already in the fold.

....and i just blew a wad.

u blew mine for me....no homo...ok nvm theres no way for it not to sound gay

[dav7z]

here's the thing, and I am not downplaying any posts by ballwhore his track record is pretty good and he does have legitimate ties to the organization, why would denver do this deal? it is pure speculation that it involves either billups or nene. for all we know it could be balkman and jr smith to make the salaries work. either way, the clippers and rockets can offer much much better deals as far as rebuilding plus stars go and if they want to send melo east nj is the better trade partner.

my first thought was they want damp's contract, but they can get that from us and don't need melo to do it. a simple billups for damp + a pick would do it. they can have damp plus get a nice deal from nj, sending melo east, by just including us in the dealings. it just doesn't make sense for denver to do a two team trade involving melo with us.

I think you guys are undervalueing Wallace . Hes a All Star a better defender and rebounder than Mello . In s/f rankings hes ranked 5th with Mello being ranked 4th. Denver gets a much better contract and a 1st round pick without much drop off in the position.
Favors and a couple picks equals WALLACE ? . I don't know if we should even do this considering contracts and abilitys ? If we jumping in we may as well go after Billups and Nane and try to win the east.

[DY_nasty]

I think you guys are undervalueing Wallace . Hes a All Star a better defender and rebounder than Mello . In s/f rankings hes ranked 5th with Mello being ranked 4th. Denver gets a much better contract and a 1st round pick without much drop off in the position.
Favors and a couple picks equals WALLACE ? . I don't know if we should even do this considering contracts and abilitys ? If we jumping in we may as well go after Billups and Nane and try to win the east.

In fantasy basketball only.

No one in their right mind would say that Wallace is a better player than Carmelo.