Im not so sure Chicagos deal is better for Denver.Originally Posted by Weezy21
Remember Dust by its self saves them 26 million dollars THIS season. Its not a expiring or any contract in the league thet will save them that much instant money.
Personaly i would rather see us land Billups and keep Crash than trade Crash for Melo.
I think a lot is hinging on the 13th and what the Bobcats do be for a lot of teams finish thair rosters.
EXAMPLES Addmuson and Flip . If we was to just cut dust . I think we might sign both guys. All i know is thair is still rumbles with Denver going on. What comes out of it i have no idea.
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This is what im hopeing for' Out, Dust, Diaw, In Billups, Smith, Anderson it makes us deep and balanced . And i think Brown would love to get Billups back. With Brown this is a top four team in the east.
Billups, DJ, Livingston
Jax, Smith ,Hendo
Wallace, Nijera, Carroll
Thomas,Anderson , Mcguire [WHO THE HELL IS THAT]
Anderson , Brown , Diop
I think Smith plays 30+ with this line up,
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Im not so sure Chicagos deal is better for Denver.
Remember Dust by its self saves them 26 million dollars THIS season. Its not a expiring or any contract in the league thet will save them that much instant money.
Personaly i would rather see us land Billups and keep Crash than trade Crash for Melo.
I think a lot is hinging on the 13th and what the Bobcats do be for a lot of teams finish thair rosters.
EXAMPLES Addmuson and Flip . If we was to just cut dust . I think we might sign both guys. All i know is thair is still rumbles with Denver going on. What comes out of it i have no idea.
Thanks Ammofan!
Denver wants no part of Deng's contract, I can guarantee you that much.
And when did Birdman turn into a center? Dude's a high energy guy and is fun to watch but I might throw up if I have to see him start for more than 5 games at center for us.
I don't understand all the Birdman hype all of a sudden either. He was a pretty good energy guy who could block shots. He has lost a lot of the athleticism that he had. I am a big Boris Diaw hater, but I would much rather have him than Birdman at this point in each of their careers. And yes, if I had to see Birdman start at center on opening night in Charlotte I would barf all over the people sitting in section 114 seat row A seat 17. It would most likely ruin their corporate suit.
Shawn "My knee is fine now, Thank you very much" Livingston
i wont throw up if thats the case. mainly because i dont have any throw up left after watching tyson chandler play.
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Birdman is not a true center . Hes a p/f -center, Birdmans contract would just be a filler. But nice for debth in two positions.
Billups is what we should be after. Smith is a expiring , Birdman is much cheaper in rotation than Diaw,
Depending on who we play could dictate who starts at center. I could see us going a lot of different ways.
Billups, Smith, Wallace, Jax, T Time
Billups ,Jax, Wallace,T Time, Birdman
Billups, Jax , Wallace, T Time , Nazz or even Brown or Diop
Adding those players causes match up problems. Melo is fine and all that but we win more keeping Crash adding Billups ,Smith . Birdman
Sheading cash and picking up expirings is key for next season. This move saves us 13 milion in expirings next season.
All so Billups is not garnteed but 3.75 milion next season . Kinda like another dust chip if we chose to use it.
I can't understand why some of you guys see only Birdman. And don't the upside to moves. Or downside to moves,
Be side starting Birdman as opposed to Chandler ?? I guess you throwed up quite a few times last season all so?
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this makes sense:
Melo-Noah swap talk premature
September, 10, 2010
SEP 10
3:10
AM ET
By Marc Stein
Archive
Four quickie reactions to all the Carmelo-to-Chicago chatter that generated so much curiosity Wednesday:
1. Before you expend too much brain power trying to figure out whether the Bulls would really part with Joakim Noah in a trade for Carmelo Anthony, be advised that the Bulls are actually working on something else Noah-related: Getting him locked in for the long term with a contract extension.
The sides have been negotiating quietly for weeks and sources close to the process say that sufficient progress has been made -- although no deal is imminent -- to all but guarantee that terms on a five-year extension will be reached before the Halloween deadline.
Noah is determined to stay in Chicago, one source assures, while the Bulls continue to send clear signals that they have no interest in parting with their center. Not even for someone of Anthony’s pedigree, as one source told ESPNChicago.com's Nick Friedell.
2. I did a spot check with a few of the sources used for last Thursday’s piece in this cyberspace about how the Nuggets are telling every team that calls about Melo’s availability that they’re not ready to discuss that subject yet.
One week later, Denver’s mindset hasn’t changed.
Sources tied to potential Anthony suitors are still telling ESPN.com that the Nuggets remain in the fact-finding phase and haven’t given a clear indication about how soon they’ll be willing to actually field offers.
No matter how much Melo might want out.
I certainly don’t doubt that Anthony’s desire to leave remains profound -- as ESPN The Magazine’s Ric Bucher laid out Aug. 16 when he quoted a source saying that it was “a matter of when, not if, Anthony and the Nuggets will go their separate ways” -- but most rival teams continue to cling to the belief that an actual deal is more likely to happen closer to the February trading than the leaguewide start of training camps in less than three weeks.
3. The newsiest development on the Denver side is the fact that new Nuggets general manager Masai Ujiri and Anthony still haven’t met face-to-face.
The Nuggets made it clear at Ujiri’s introductory press conference more than a week ago that they wanted him to sit down with the face of the franchise to assess whether any hope for a reconciliation remains or whether they have no choice but to start taking those trade calls, with Anthony eligible to become a free agent at season’s end.
Nuggets officials continue to believe that the sitdown will take place soon. Yet it’s worth noting that they likewise believed entering free agency July 1 that Anthony was close to signing the three-year, $65 million contract extension that Denver formally extended back in June before the draft.
The calls from other teams aren’t going to stop coming in no matter what, but the vigor with which the vultures circle only grows with each new hint of extension resistance from Melo.
4. Even if the Nuggets can eventually be sold on the idea of taking back a trade package headlined by Noah and Luol Deng -- which is debatable in itself unless the draft picks included were so irresistible or the Bulls landed a suddenly durable Nene as well – Chicago simply can’t afford to add Noah to a potential Melo offer.
Not after the long-term investments that the Bulls made this offseason on Carlos Boozer and Tom Thibodeau.
Boozer needs a long, defensive-minded center as a sidekick to truly flourish. Thibodeau needs a Kevin Garnett-style anchor on D in his first head-coaching gig like he had in Boston with KG as the Celtics’ defensive coordinator.
And Noah not only fills both of those roles but would be incredibly hard to replace. Especially if the would-be primary Noah replacement is a scoring machine who plays small forward.
When it comes to fit alongside the new power forward and the new coach, Melo isn’t at Noah’s level.
No its not that we're only seeing birdman, its just that guy has never started 5 games over a single season and his stats at center (emergency situations) are bad. I understand it financially, but I'm just not all that wild about him.
Yes it does but the problem is that I don't really see it guaranteeing that happens. It does significantly up our chances but if we can't be assured of such I would rather keep Crash.
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