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Shawn "My knee is fine now, Thank you very much" Livingston
Jordan will lose money at the poker table...
but won't go over the luxury tax for an NBA team he owns? What a great owner. To make matters worse, he's taken a gamble on Kwame not once, but twice. I'm sure he's been hard at work honing his skills and wowed Jordan with his cement hands and low basketball IQ.
I've lived in NC all my life, but I wish the Panthers and the Bobcats would both go. I'm sick of watching teams that are mediocre from top to bottom. Poor draft pick after poor draft pick tends to do that. Neither one of the owners are willing to spend money so the fans are going to be indifferent. Ever wonder why the attendance is so low at Bobcats games? Lack of winning. It's a talent issue. Larry Brown is a great coach, but he's not going to be able to work magic with a team that trots out Mohammed/Diop as their starting center. Oh, and a lazy, overweight Diaw. No one wants to come play here and the Bobcats will never land a huge free agent. Someone will point out that the Bobcats made the playoffs last year. Big deal. They also got raped by Orlando in the first round. This off season has been a total step backwards. Anyone that thinks the Bobs are better off this year than they were last year can have fun watching this team play in a half empty arena (or at home on their couch, considering they've finally worked out a %&@#ing cable deal).
No need to sugar coat it. Tell us how you really feel.
Shawn "My knee is fine now, Thank you very much" Livingston
I'm pretty pissed. I thought that maybe Jordan was going to be a step up from Bob Johnson, but I'm not so sure. It's a well known fact that Jordan is a huge gambler so I have no idea why he didn't try to trade someone for Dampier's contract. It was a luxury tax issue, plain and simple. I don't buy the, "there were no trades on the board" excuse for one second.
It's okay. Let it all out. You'll feel much better.
I do admit this organisation has been through hell and back, but we're not so much in the deep end as we use to. I mean come on, the Fine Ham Biscuit himself and Jeff McInnis, it doesn't get any worse than that. And they're both gone. It's not so bad anymore, at times it's still really bad but it's not as bad as it use to be.
Hendo|MKG|Bismack
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Originally Posted by Absinthe
They made the right decision, keeping Damp would've cost MJ $23M more than waiving him. $23M to a small market pro franchise is huge. If we average 15,000 people per night for 41 home games....that's $37/seat per game for everyone in attendance. It would've been irresponsible to stay in Luxury Tax land and have to fire 90% of the employees, and raise ticket and concession prices and not having a roster that is much different than what we have now.
Like it or not, it's a business, which means some of the decisions are made for the health of the business, not to make the talking heads in the media happy.
I do. I feel fairly sure that Higgins and Jordan pursued both Chris Paul and Carmelo Anthony using Dampier's contract and got turned away.
If you think about it, this off season can best be summed as a pure gamble. We traded away Tyson for a DUST chip and two mediocre players in hopes that we could package that chip for a player we really wanted. Nobody wanted the chip or the pieces offered along with it, thus the gamble failed. Also look at the trades they almost made. For a couple hours Boris Diaw and Tyson Chandler both thought they were Raptors.
My point is, the front office tried this offseason to "significantly" improve the team, and failed to do so. They weren't looking to make us a little better, they were trying to make us contenders, and because of that, I am not too upset with how things played out. Are we worse off than last year? Yes. Do I think its impossible for us to make the playoffs? No.
And one last thing, not sure if you read the article but the Bobcats had one of, if not the biggest season ticket holder renewals in the league this offseason. The fans are coming back. And to want the Panthers and Bobcats out of NC? It could be worse man, we could have the Lions, T-Wolves, or a handful of other bottom feeder teams that have no chance of ever becoming relevant.
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as long as we don't get Jose I won't complain
I will say this... The Tyson Chandler/Erick Dampier trade shows how bad our FO is when it comes to planning. You simply don't make that kind of move without another trade already in place. I see a lot of people saying that 'well, he almost got Carmelo or Paul' but the thing is, if the FO was efficient and forward thinking, they never would've jumped the gun.
That trade never should've been made without the endgame already clearly in sight.
I'd have done it regardless. They have the same contract and Dampier isn't any worse. If Tyson's contract could've been waived for nothing--like Damp's--I imagine they'd have cut him too.
I agree that the tyson for damp trade was good. Chandler has been injured for the past couple seasons, hell Darius miles is probably more durable than TC is.
I applaud the front office, for getting rid of some garbage to try and make us better. We aren't in any worse shape without TC
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