Do we exercise our next year options on Hendo & DJ?

[BlockParty]

It's why Jack's drives are so effective, even though he's tiny compared to the bigs down low.

Jack is only tiny in comparison to HIS EGO when he's trying to score when being guarded by a mammal. And yes, that's a compliment, I love his passion for beating his opponent.

[teej]

UPS will be in the NBA 10 years minimum. His game is different than Hendo (and therefore so are the perimeter shooting expectations).

UPS's high-end (with some work) could fill a Anthony Mason role (old school NY Knicks player who averaged a double double).

I'd love to agree with you, but what distinguishes him from Rodney Carney, Cartier Martin, Gerald Green, etc.?

[DY_nasty]

This. Please find me any shooting guard over 27 in the league right now that can't shoot. I'll wait. There are an infinite amount of swingmen that can play defense (Dom McGuire for this team), and an infinite amount of swingmen who can shoot (Matty Carroll). What determines their longevity is the ability to do both. The reason an undrafted, 34-year-old Raja Bell is going to start at 2 guard for the Utah Jazz, who will be a playoff team, is because he plays defense AND shoots. The reason Bruce Bowen played until they put him in the crypt is because he could do both. The reason Gerald Wallace became an All-Star this year is because he finally got his shots to fall. The reason UPS and Hendo won't be in the league in 5 years without a dramatic change is because they can't shoot. If they were centers, they'd be set for life. But they're not, so they HAVE to learn to shoot. And dynasty, have you EVER watched Hendo play? His shooting percentage is like Jake Delhomme's TD-INT ratio. Not Good.

lol Dwayne Wade, a top 5 player in the league has only cracked 30% shooting from 3 twice in his career. Tyreke Evans, ROTY, shot 25% from deep. Shooting from 3 is not the defining characteristic for a shooting guard, it never was, and just once can we PLEASE have a back and forth without the bullshit 'do you even watch games?!?111' crap. Shit is tiresome and played out.

I'm not going to judge a guy's fg% until he gets consistent minutes - coming off the bench in 'oh shit i get to play tonight' mode is hardly indicative of how well their shot is going to fall.

Mid-range, slashing - Henderson is fine. And with all slashers, 3 point shooting helps. But nowhere in the gospel of basketball does it say that it has to be their own shooting. Grant Hill had shooters happy to be on his team in Detroit. Wade made Cook and Kapono look like borderline stars because they were wide open all day. Reke has Casspi and Greene spotting up. For any slasher, its going to be hard to operate without shooters. Good thing we're the Bobcats though. We got plenty to open the paint up amirite?

[SWedd523]

What's the biggest difference between Wade, Tyreke, and Hendo? The first two can dribble. Having an outside shot isn't important when you can create for yourself off the dribble.


You can also look at his SL %'s and Preseason %'s, neither are high for him. Nor were they in college--with a shorter 3PT line.

[DY_nasty]

And all of that is fixable. The whole topic was whether or not he was worth picking up his option though and honestly can't think of a reason not to.

Edit: Also, I was just throwing those two out because Teej wanted some guards who couldn't shoot.

[spectre]

What's the biggest difference between Wade, Tyreke, and Hendo? The first two can dribble. Having an outside shot isn't important when you can create for yourself off the dribble.

Exactly. Well said. If they can create for others like those first two and do it efficiently as well then you have something.

[Chef]

UPS will be in the NBA 10 years minimum. His game is different than Hendo (and therefore so are the perimeter shooting expectations).

UPS's high-end (with some work) could fill a Anthony Mason role (old school NY Knicks player who averaged a double double).

Agreed on Hendo..you can't play shooting guard if you can't shoot from outside (that is and will always be one of Felton's weaknesses).

i think you are very wrong on UPS. once his ups go, so does he.

[BlockParty]

i think you are very wrong on UPS. once his ups go, so does he.

Yep, and they go in 9 years, right after his 10th year in the league

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[SWedd523]

And all of that is fixable. The whole topic was whether or not he was worth picking up his option though and honestly can't think of a reason not to.

Edit: Also, I was just throwing those two out because Teej wanted some guards who couldn't shoot.

It's certainly fixable (as I alluded to with him having "adequate" handles now) but it's obvious that to this point he hasn't improved those areas much. I'll say again, he needs to just stay in the gym and shoot jumper after jumper after jumper because, if he can develop a reliable outside shot, he'll be a better version of Raja. Same goes for his handles.

[DY_nasty]

Again - wasn't trying to draw a comparison between those guys and Henderson. Just giving the guy his names of players who couldn't shoot.

And it makes no sense to consider dropping either guy at this point.