With so many different threads being used to talk about "blowing it up" and making moves, let's try and keep the ideas and discussions in one place.
I would be pissed if that happened....We need to get another starter and one backup sg or center for Jack if he is dealt.Originally Posted by GoBobs
Would ORL deal Vince? I would do something centered around Jack/Diaw for Vince/Bass
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The 2010-11 Trade Ideas Thread
With so many different threads being used to talk about "blowing it up" and making moves, let's try and keep the ideas and discussions in one place.
We usually have a huge trade within a month or so of the season's start. Since Jack has the most undesirable contract for a core piece, I say we look to move him. The problem is that most teams have either an established SG, or a young SG ready to play. You have to look for a team where they need a veteran and/or scorer.
I think a team like Minnesota could use Jack. They have cap space and have a ton of young guys that need a leader. Therefore: Jack + DJ for Brewer + Flynn + Koufos
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=2v4un74
I like a trade with Kings.
Bobccats Acquire: Thompson, Casspi, Dalembert
Kings Acquire: Jax, Nazr
Trade Point:
We get a young Big who is athletic and can score in Thompson, Casspi can score as well (when he gets in the groove), and a big expiring who can defense in the paint. Kings is lacking in the SG/SF position so they get immediate help with Jax. Similar to what Swedd mention about the Wolves, Kings has a lot of young guys with no pure leader. Jax along with Nazr can provides that leadership with Championship experience.
Overall, we lose the offenses game that Jax provides, but we gain it on the front with Thompson. Another benefit is that we get to work Hendo in and develop him at the SG, Casspi can also be slot in as SG. The main thing here is that we get cap relieve with Jax gone and Sam 12MM expiring, which we can use for FA. I say it a win-win for both teams.
I like that Kings trade G-Force...
This one is a little more unrealistic b/c I doubt they do this unless we give up another future first rounder and maybe Hendo... But I propose:
Jackson
for
Blazers:
Rudy Fernandez
Andre Miller
Dante Cunningham
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
NO MAN... James Jones? Vince? If we traded Jax and Diaw for Vince and Bass our team would be shit...
Vince isn't a leader like Jackson and Bass is what? A more experienced Derrick Brown at best.
Stop jumping ship on Jackson, 2 games have been played. HE is our LEADER. Diaw has decent numbers. I didn't catch the game last night but i'll be watching tonight.
We need to pull it together and find right floor lineups. Involving Tyrus more and knowing who to have in for 4th. I'll give it another week to analyze DJ.
sac isn't giving up casspi nor do they need a sg. they have garcia. they just traded martin because he was taking touches from evans.
minn doesn't do it. they aren't in contention. no need to take on jax.
blazers have roy. no need for jax.
as i said in other posts i really think he is going to have to go to contender willing to roll the dice that he is the missing piece to a conference or nba finals. after the magic got beat down last night because they couldn't matchup at the 2 or 3 with wade or lebron, i think the take jax. my short list is magic, bulls, utah, maybe spurs so they can move parker.
i like jax and naz to orlando for gortat and jj don't know if they would let gortat go though
to chicago jax and filler for gibson or johnson and cj watson and either brewer or korver
to utah go big salary relief jax and nazr (maybe try diop) for ak47
to spurs jax and nazr for tony parker (not sure if the spurs do this, probably not enough value although jax could be huge for them defensively and from three)
vince would be for salary relief or feb trade piece only. if he is healthy and in contract year, he could be what we need to compliment dj and crash. but he is a wuss so he would most likely disappoint. i think it isn't a bad move. don't think they include bass though, probably better shot at gortat at this point. vince could really help s rebuild through trade in feb.
That's what I was thinking.
Pencil me in for 12/3.
SOMEONE will pay for THIS!
The team is merely 0-2 and though I think Larry Brown will insist on a trade or trades it will happen only because Larry Brown coached teams always start slow. Last season before the trades everybody was pushing the panic button and after the trade it just took that much longer for the team to acquire the needed chemistry to win enough to make the playoffs. I don't think after two games it is time to start panicing and hoping for a trade of a player like Jax who "though he has his faults," was a key contributor to last seasons success. Let's at least give these guys five or six games to see if they can win at least two and if they don't than we can talk about how lousy the team is. I felt from the beginning that the team would start slow since that is usually the case with Larry Brown coached teams. Larry Brown really has no clue what he wants to do with lineups and player rotations and therefore mismanages minutes and the such. It will take at least a month for the Bobcats to start playing well enough to look like a team capable of making the playoffs in my opinion. If the team does make a trade do we just see these new players coming in as the next players going out next season should they not satisfy y'all early next season? I feel that the team will be okay at the 1 but for sure we could add a near all star type talent to the 5. That said, it is too early to say whether a team is great, good or lousy and I think we need to give our team a little more than two games to get a real idea of where they stand.
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