The 2010-11 Trade Discussion Thread

[ammofan]

What about Andy V from Cleveland? The Cavs are probably looking to break some stuff down and he's signed to a long-term deal. Could he be the banger, defender, rebounder we need down low?

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=37cs59b

Also, after the 15th we'd include McGuire, just so LB couldn't keep playing him.

No way CLE would do that....

[DY_nasty]

That Varejao contract is an abomination. 5 years for a glorified scrub? No thanks.

Why does this team have such problems developing talent? Adam Morrison was a terrible pick. Gerald Henderson rides the bench. DJ has been repeatedly on the trading block and Larry Brown doesn't trust him. Sean May never had a fire lit under his ass and became a bloated, oft injured mess. Okafor was decent, but was traded away. Felton signed with another team (ended up being the best pick Charlotte has had since the Bobcats became a team). Oh, and get this, Alexis Ajinca. Yes, that guy. He's actually having a good game in Dallas tonight. He has 6 rebounds, 3 points, 2 blocks and 1 steal in 9 minutes.

Its so much easier to say that this team doesn't draft well.

I've been saying this all the time... the Bobcats haven't drafted any guys that were immediate colossal busts (Alexis was a project player from the start - and given what LB wants from his centers, this could've been a good year for him here). Most of the guys we get come in and either regress because of poorly managed injuries (May, Morrison) or they come in and never improve (Everyone else).

[Absinthe]

That Varejao contract is an abomination. 5 years for a glorified scrub? No thanks.
Its so much easier to say that this team doesn't draft well.

I've been saying this all the time... the Bobcats haven't drafted any guys that were immediate colossal busts (Alexis was a project player from the start - and given what LB wants from his centers, this could've been a good year for him here). Most of the guys we get come in and either regress because of poorly managed injuries (May, Morrison) or they come in and never improve (Everyone else).

The two best draft picks the Bobcats have had no longer play with the team. Okafor and Felton might have been good (not great) players, but they were still the best picks the franchise ever had. Anyone that knew a thing about Sean May knew that he was going to become a fatso with poor work ethic. Hell, he struggled with conditioning in college so I don't know why people thought it would be a good idea to draft him. I really feel like Morrison got shit on. The franchise never gave him a fair chance. Another player that was very similar to him coming out of the draft was JJ Reddick. Many people labeled him a bust and he rode the pine for the first two years in the league. He worked on his game and now he's a contributing player. I'll never believe in a million years that a college player as dominant as Morrison couldn't, at the very least, be a bench player in this league. They then ship him out to LA and he never played there either. I'm not even sure if Morrison is in the D league and that is such a shock to me.

[DY_nasty]

The two best draft picks the Bobcats have had no longer play with the team. Okafor and Felton might have been good (not great) players, but they were still the best picks the franchise ever had. Anyone that knew a thing about Sean May knew that he was going to become a fatso with poor work ethic. Hell, he struggled with conditioning in college so I don't know why people thought it would be a good idea to draft him. I really feel like Morrison got shit on. The franchise never gave him a fair chance. Another player that was very similar to him coming out of the draft was JJ Reddick. Many people labeled him a bust and he rode the pine for the first two years in the league. He worked on his game and now he's a contributing player. I'll never believe in a million years that a college player as dominant as Morrison couldn't, at the very least, be a bench player in this league. They then ship him out to LA and he never played there either. I'm not even sure if Morrison is in the D league and that is such a shock to me.

Morrison was fine at first, then he got injured and never mentally or physically recovered - something like that should never happen to a guy drafted that high. I'm still kind of baffled by it. May's weight was never an issue at UNC. Not sure where you're going there... if anything, how his career played out showed how we allowed him to become complacent with the handling of his injury.

But again, no one ever improves as a Bobcat. We pick guys with solid foundations, and they never get better. Only worse.

[Absinthe]

This team has to get better through trades and drafting. This team will never get better through free agency because players will take less money to play in bigger markets. Instead, the front office gives away picks and makes shitty draft choices. It's also bad luck. A lot of very, very, very good players have been taken just before Charlotte could draft them. The biggest one that really sticks out is Dwight Howard. But players like Paul, Deron, and Roy are up there too. It's just shitty luck.

[Dcarnys]

Maybe we can draft a decent franchise player just once?

[DY_nasty]

Maybe we can draft a decent franchise player just once?

To expect to draft the next Tim Duncan is only going to lead disappointment.

How about we draft someone solid and actually get some improvement out of them for once?

[BRNC]

Morrison was fine at first, then he got injured and never mentally or physically recovered - something like that should never happen to a guy drafted that high. I'm still kind of baffled by it. May's weight was never an issue at UNC. Not sure where you're going there... if anything, how his career played out showed how we allowed him to become complacent with the handling of his injury.

But again, no one ever improves as a Bobcat. We pick guys with solid foundations, and they never get better. Only worse.

It is odd when folk "re-write" what draft analyst knew or did not know concerning drafts...this is from DratExpress weakness section concerning Sean May before he was drafted...and a simple check with any other reputable drafting site will indicate the same...his weight was an issue/concern before the draft as was his conditioning (lack of)...

"Weaknesses:

May is not an outstanding athlete by any means and that hurts his draft stock because it might scare a few teams away from him. He does not have very good leaping ability either at this point. The thing that might be holding him back the most is the fact that he is not in great shape at all conditioning wise, although he is not as chubby as he used to be. His explosiveness might be a lot better than what we are seeing right now, but he's not in shape so it's impossible to tell. That's a concern because if he can't get in shape at this age in college, what's going to happen in the pros? He'll have to shed at least 10-15 pounds next year if not more than that if he really wants to be considered a top prospect at his height.

May does run the court well, but most of the time he is playing center on the team and not PF. He will not be able to play center in the NBA at 6-7 or 6-8, so he will have to develop into a more consistent post defender and learn how to defend better away from the basket. I do not think he will have a problem rebounding, but he might have trouble running with NBA PF's and keeping up with them over the course of 82 games that are 48 minutes long. He can most likely handle most NBA PF's in the paint once he gets his feet wet, but if he was taken away from the basket and asked to defend on the perimeter, he would be taken advantage of because he does not move his feet well at this point.

May has developed offensive abilities at this point in his career thanks to his strength advantage, but he will have to expand his game even more and become a better outside shooter at the next level. He has great touch from around the rim but he will have to develop a solid 15-foot jump shot to be more dangerous in the league.

He will also have to expand his back to the basket game and include more moves to his repertoire to be as effective as possible.

He is not a great ball handler either, just not being comfortable at this point dribbling the basketball. He is mostly a catch and shoot post player and does not dribble that often to create shots for himself. To his credit, though, he is North Carolina's only post presence right now, the only player that can consistently score with his back to the basket and that's what his role has been so far. He might be able to show off better perimeter skills next year, but at this point he has yet to do that. "


From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...#ixzz17eICSYzs
http://www.draftexpress.com

Morrison has done nothing to justify him as that high a pick...claiming the team mishandled him while injuried is dubious at best since he is long over the injury and no other team seems to be able to get anything from him...

[DY_nasty]

Sean May's conditioning was never an issue at UNC - thats what I said and have been saying. Whenever he got hurt there, he never bloated and turned into a sideshow.

And Morrison's rookie season wasn't even that bad. For a guy who's game wasn't predicated on athleticism and strongly built around shooting, he was never going to immediately step into the league and light it up. Even if you're of the opinion that he was instantly terrible and a bust on arrival, the fact that no one Charlotte has ever drafted has shown any signs of moderate improvement still stands.

[Dcarnys]

To expect to draft the next Tim Duncan is only going to lead disappointment.

How about we draft someone solid and actually get some improvement out of them for once?

That works too.