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Looking forward to reading what you present Professor Kat, especially your next installment on Egypt. I love discussion on the possibility ( or impossibility ) of whether the native people of Egypt could have really built the pyramids.
Ancient Civilizations
I'm going to start my own little educational series on mankinds lost history. I like history and i think what most people are taught isn't always what true. Some of the topics I will touch on in this thread will be ancient Egypt, Peru, Stonehedge, Aficans in America before Coloumbus, the Maya, Hopi Indians, Megalithic stone structures, Native Americans that write in Hebrew, African tribes that claim owner ship of the ark of the covenant,ancient Iraq and India and I'll start with Poverty Point in L.A.,USA. I'll hit alot of topic's, Even if no one replies I hope it's educational and entertaining.
First up...I'll start with something right here in America. Poverty Point ,Louisiana.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_Point
This is a culture of so called native american mound builders. This site predates any known civilization in the USA. Ancient peoples in the americas have been building mounds for a very long time. In the area where i live down in either Lumberton or Pembroke, NC there are super old mounds stills repected today.
People build these for religious reasons, protection from certain gods, as a marker of their culture, an earth bound marker to certain stars or constellations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mound_builder_%28people%29
These mounds prove that native americans weren't some backwoods savages. In many ways they were more advanced then the european invaders. Why have you never heard of Poverty Point or any of the other ancient mounds and civilizations that built them.
Next Up....Egypt
Last edited by Ghost Kat; 11-01-2010 at 02:02 PM.
Looking forward to reading what you present Professor Kat, especially your next installment on Egypt. I love discussion on the possibility ( or impossibility ) of whether the native people of Egypt could have really built the pyramids.
Professor kat, I like that Zig.
And kat, they haven't taught anyone because it would contradict the stories from Columbus, Cortez, et al. Can't have those "heroes" be wrong, can we? It's the whole winner writes the history books deal.
Awesome Kat. I'm a huge fan of history. More specifically Middle Ages key figures, Charlemagne, Ghenghis Khan, Nobunaga, Joan of Arc. Really was because of AOE2 that started it, also a massive history buff on Knights Templars.
Looking forward to your Egypt one, since I have played a lot of Pharaoh&Cleopatra in my time.
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I've been trying to get my notes right for my Egypt presentation. But it's such a big topic I don't know where to start. So while I'm getting myself together here's some more stuff about North American lost history.
Just so you know Columbus didn't reach "America" till his third voyage. Most likely he landed in the Bahamas or in Cuba. No one is certain, What is certain is that the people living there were not godless savages. These people had a highly developed civilization. In Columbus' own journal translated by John Boyd Thacher, he states that the people in that area where known as the Khan. The Amaru were the leaders or kings of that group. Amaru-Khan....American.....This country was named after the people that already lived here.
This video is extra long and the guy is a little goofy but the artifacts in this presentation are real and documented. They so that ancient american people were a highly developed group of people who were killed, enslaved, and destroyed by the real godless savages
So you dispute the use of America on the Waldseemüller map being named after Amerigo Vespucci?Originally Posted by CarolinaKat
-- BigMike
Right now i'm going to say I'm not sure. History is written by the winners....I agree.....But what about mistranslating or spellings? The bible is filled with mistranlations but we go right on believing that like its the word of god.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_%28word%29
In 1886, Jules Marcou said Vespucci renamed himself from Alberigo Vespucci (Albericus Vespucius) to Amerigo Vespucci after meeting the native inhabitants of the eponymous Amerrique mountain ranges of Nicaragua[citation needed] that connect North America and South America, an important geographic feature of New World maps and charts.
Or
Both these Italian navigators thought at first, as did Columbus, that they had found the direct way to the Indies, and each one earnestly declared himself to have been the first to discover the mainland. At any rate Vespucci could talk and write the best and he had many friends among the scholars of his day. When, therefore, it really dawned upon men that the land across the seas to which the genius of Columbus had led them was not India or “Cathay” but a new continent, then it was that the man who had the most to say about it obtained the greatest glory — that of giving it a name.
Wise men who have studied the matter deeply are greatly puzzled just how to decide whether the continent of America took its name from Amerigo Vespucci or whether Vespucci took his name from America. Those who hold to the first quote from a very old book that says, “a fourth part of the world, since Amerigo found it, we may call Amerigo or America;” those who incline to the other opinion claim that America came from an old Indian word Maraca-pan or Amarca, a South American country and tribe; Vespucci, they say, used this native word to designate the new land, and upon its adoption by map-makers deliberately changed his former name of Alberigo or Albericus Vespucci to Amerigo or Americus.
http://www.sheilaomalley.com/?p=4756
2 second google search...Look for your self
The first two I really liked. I grew up in Northern NY and we generally respected the Iroquois nations and the fact that they got screwed over by small pox and black powder.
Heck the Mohawks were a valid warrior threat until after the war of 1812!
Now that third one... the dude was scary crazy. Its like he took all the best crack pot theorys, melded them together with some hoxes and a few interesting true stories, and spit them back out as science. Seriously when someone cites the ever expanding earth theory I just walk away man... walk away.
-- BigMike
Ancient Egypt....part I
I've been lazy
Egypt is such a big subject and there are so many things believed or taught today thats are just untrue. I plan on touching on pyramid construction, Pyramid age, Temple uses, Religion, Other temples, and so on. In the first section of Egypt part one I'm going to address religion.
If you've read any of my other threads you know I have zero religious belief. If you believe good for you try not to take anything I say as attacking you personally or your beliefs. ( Even if thats what I'm kinda doing). With that said....Christianity is a fake carbon copy of Egyptian and other creations myths.
Temple of Luxor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxor_Temple
Comparable Events in the life of Horus and Jesus
1.Virgin Birth, Isis was inpregnanted by the Holy Ghost Neff
2. Only son of Osiris
3. Mother was named Isis- Meri ( Mary)
4.Step-Father was named Seb also pronounced Jo-Seb, The builder of the house
5. Birth was signaled by the star Sirius ( The brightest Star in the East )
6. His birth is celebrated during the Winter Solstice ( Dec. 21 )
7. His birth was announced by angels and witnessed by shepherds
8. Three solar deities were said to have witnessed the birth , Probably the three brightest stars in Orion’s belt, Known in ancient times as the “Three Kings”
9. Death threat as a baby : Herut tried to have Horus murdered as a baby ( Jesus/Herod)
10. Isis is told “ Come , Thou Goddess Isis, hide thy self with thy child”
An angel tells Jesus father: “Arise and take the young child and his mother and Flee to Egypt”
11. No info on his life from age 12-30
12. Baptism in the river Eridanus by Anup the Baptizer
13. Anup was Beheaded ……… John the Baptist was Beheaded
14. Horus leaves from the desert to meditate on a mountain, While there he is tempted by his rival Set, Horus resists
15. Horus had 12-16 followers or disciples
16. Horus preformed such miracles as walking on water ( Nile River ), Casting out Demons, Healed the sick, Sight restored to the blind, He stilled the sea’s with his hand.
17. Horus raised Osiris from the dead
18. His resurrection was located in the Egyptian city of Anu
Side note: In Hebrew Beth means house, Beth-Anu : House of Anu
19. Gave a “Sermon on the Mount”
20. Burial place was in a tomb, After death he descended into Hell where he battled Set, Horus was resurrected after three days
21. Horus was killed, one myth says he was killed beside two thieves
22. His resurrection was announced by women who were his followers
23. Hours’ step father Jo-Seb was descended from a royal family
Osiris, Horus father was killed by his brother Set. Cut into 14 pieces and scattered over the globe. Isis found the pieces and put him back together and Osiris was reborn. The first recorded resurrection myth.
Ten Commandments: A direct copy from the Egyptians “Book of the Dead”
The “Book of the Dead or Papyrus of Ani was a list of things man must swear before entering the “After Life”
Side Note: A person’s heart was measured on a scale against the weight of a feather, the more sin in the heart , the heavier the heart. The unworthy were eaten by a monster in the underworld named Ammit
- Once in the “Hall of Two Truths” The person would recite a list of things they haven’t done
1. I have not reviled the God
2. I have not laid Violent hands on an orphan
3. I have not done what the God abominates
4. I have not killed nor have I handed anyone over to a killer
5. I have not caused anyone’s suffering
6. I have not illicitly copulated nor been unchaste
7. I have not added to the balanced weight ( meaning I have not cheated anyone )
8. I have not taken milk from the mouth of a child ( Stolen )
9. I have not kept cattle away from the God’s property
10. I have not blocked the God at his processions
Side Note: There are many more but I only listed Ten to prove the point
When Translated the “Book of the Dead “ says:
“I have done away sin for the Thee and not acted fraudulently or Deceitfully. I have not belittled the God. I have not inflicted pain or caused another to weep. I have not purlioned the offerings to the God. I have not stolen. I have not murdered or given such and order. I have not used false balances or scales. I have not uttered lies or curses “
Spell #125 from the “The Ritual”
http://www.egypt-tehuti.org/articles...ilarities.html
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http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Lazarus
It's commonly believed that Hebrew slaves were used to build the pyramids. The story of Moses "man of the people" demanding to have his people set free is crushingly inaccurate. Most of those stones weighted no less then 10 tons and heaviest might be around 100 tons. It would have taken a work force in the millions. You need workers, workers families, cooks, doctors for injuries or sickness, stone cutters, stone movers, stone movers back ups on & on. U need people to get supplies. Building these pyramids was the biggest construction project in human history. You can't force that many slaves to work that long and that hard with just swords and spears. History shows slaves revolt on their own. They didn't need Moses or his magic staff thats turns into a snake. Thank Charlton Heston for that nonsense
There is no egyptian account of a slave revolt. Nothing about keeping that number of slaves, nothing about Moses or the parting of the sea with killed a large part of the Pharaohs perusing army. Thats a big thing....HUGE...losing your entire work force & part of your army. And not one hieroglyph about it. Not even one hieroglyph about the construction of the pyramids or sphinx. Not one!! biggest thing man has ever done and nothing is written about how they did it? Thats because they are way older then the known egyptian culture
Last edited by Ghost Kat; 12-19-2010 at 06:58 PM.
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