Is it time for the Bobcats to consider to trade Stephen Jackson or Gerald Wallace

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

Let have a discussion if it time to for the bobcats to trade either Stephen Jackson or Gerald Wallace ..Please watch my video and let me know if you agree with me that it time to make a major trade or you are happy with the roster is and you don't feel like there is a need to make a major trade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0dG0JHbM-A

[Toocool]

I don't have the time to watch your youtube, but would simply like to post a question or two for discussion.
Considering we trade either A) Cpt Jack or B) Wallace

If A occurs:
Most likely Hendo would be starting at the 2. He's shown far more in his minutes this season than last season, but would you give him the starting reigns?
Could we possibly package Cpt Jack with Diaw for a solid/good center? Or just Jack himself for some solid C.

B occurs:
Who starts? UPS shifts to starting, or Jack moves to the 3, with Hendo to the 2.
Who would we target if we trade away Wallace? I doubt he's untouchable, but hes as damn untouchable as they come in a LB team

[teej]

While it may be time for Jack to go, it's never time for Crash to leave. He is this team, and he won't net anything close to his value (to this team) in return. Jack is probably in the same category as far as value, but were a trade to come up that may help, I'd think about it.

I don't, however, think they should decide on whether to trade them or not until after New Year's, when we have a better idea of how the team is as constructed.

[BigMike]

I am not even going to bother watching this. Crash is a 28 year old all star. So the only thing you trade him for is another sub 30 all-star and the league is in short supply of them.
Jackson, sure if there is a good deal I would trade him but it would have to improve our team.

[Chef]

according to ballwhore (def reliable when it comes to inside info) a league-wide feeler was put out on jax. Zero interest. at best he will net an expiring. your question should be do we start over or not? if the answer is yes we sell wallace for 75 cents on the dollar, get rid of diop/carroll with him and get back expirings/a young talent/and at least 1 #1 draft pick. if the answer is no we do not do a total start over, teej and big mike are right.

[ohara831]

I am not ready to throw in the towel on Henderson becoming a solid bench player. He has shown improvement so far this season, and the more PT he gets, the more improved his game. Dont give up on him.

Jax, I would trade if the price was right. I think he is more often playing poorly and hurting us as opposed to the Jax we need to be a good team. His TO's are bad, and I hate when he quits on plays. If he gets the ball stripped or blocked and no foul is called, he just looks at the referee and leaves the other 4 guys to play defense. Cant take that garbage for long.

Crash, I am far more reluctant to think of giving. If it brought us 2 starters to make the overall team better, then maybe. But who would trade for Crash and have 2 players to give up for him that would start for Charlotte? Seems like that team would improve themselves in one aspect, but hurt themselves in another. Just cant see it happening.

[WAM9]

I'm with you guys in general. Wallace is probably worth far more to us as a franchise as he is to anyone else. Jack doesn't carry enough trade value, league wide, to get back value in return for him.

With that being said, I am completely for waiting a month or 2 to see where this team actually is. We played pretty good ball down the stretch last year with both Wallace and Jack and I think we can do the same this season. DJ seems to have replaced Felton pretty well and a center is our biggest problem, not our wings. We are definitely playing better basketball 8 games in then we were on game 1. Let's give it a little time.

I didn't take the 10 minutes to watch the whole youtube video but in watching the first couple of minutes, one thing I disagree with is that we could easily be 0-8. While we could be 0-8 you could also make an arguement that we could just as easily be 4-4 or 5-3. We have had some bad calls go against us and had some opposing players really get hot and hit big shots in the 4th quarter of several games. I know that "if" a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass but if we are going to say they could be 0-8 then I think the opposite could be successfully argued as well.

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

Let me say couple of thing .
It true that we could be 4-4 or 5-3 had calls went our way but as i said in my video .We can go on a long winning streak still this roster is not good enough to might even make the playoff and even if we will make the playoff we very well could get swept again . Henderson for a guy who was a 12th pick in the draft. I expected much more out of him.Then scoring 6 to 10 points per game .As said near the end of my video .I also hope that we don't need to trade crash .But folks at the end of the day we are a Bobcats fan first and Crash fan 2nd .I''m not saying they should trade him.But if by trading him we can get great value in return .That not only can help make the playoffs but also advance in the playoffs.Then we must consider trading crash away as much as it would hurt.The roster the way it is right now has a missing piss .We must get anther SG.If you can tell me we can trade Jackson Henderson Diop maybe also put Diaw in this trade.And we can get back .A very good SG plus a guy or 2 who can come off the bench then i would do it in a second because Tyrus Thomas has showing that he is ready to step in.Doing nothing won't fix the issue that are having with turnovers with not able to score as much as we need to.Not able to rebound .Again if you guys are just to make the playoff and that it and get swept again.Then fine everything is good then there is no need to do nothing.But if you believe no we don't need to rebuild but getting better in the short and long turn then a trade must be done.We can win the next 5 games maybe even 10 games.At the end of the day because not addressing the team in the Off-Season we took 2 step backward .Keeping Tyrus Thomas was the only good move that we made in the off-season

[Pepperz]

I hate the idea of trading players away and start rebuilding stage again. We have a good core of players that can stay together for awhile. Our draft picks are finally starting to come around the corner. DJ has picked up his play a bunch compared to last year. Brown has shown since his rookie year that he is turning out to be a second round steal. Henderson is starting to show what hes all about when he gets some PT. Wallace is the face of the franchise and I really dont think we are going to find another player like him that brings it game after game. TT has become a little more polished and with more time with LB, he can become a great great player. The only people I would even consider trading are Jackson and Boris (maybe Nazr). They are the only that we could trade and get some kind of good returning value but I will never trade them for expiring/picks. MJ should just wait it out until we see the right trade come up. Ill let everybody else just chill on the bench until their contracts expire.

[Chef]

I hate the idea of trading players away and start rebuilding stage again. We have a good core of players that can stay together for awhile. Our draft picks are finally starting to come around the corner. DJ has picked up his play a bunch compared to last year. Brown has shown since his rookie year that he is turning out to be a second round steal. Henderson is starting to show what hes all about when he gets some PT. Wallace is the face of the franchise and I really dont think we are going to find another player like him that brings it game after game. TT has become a little more polished and with more time with LB, he can become a great great player. The only people I would even consider trading are Jackson and Boris (maybe Nazr). They are the only that we could trade and get some kind of good returning value but I will never trade them for expiring/picks. MJ should just wait it out until we see the right trade come up. Ill let everybody else just chill on the bench until their contracts expire.

we won't make the playoffs with this team.