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I don't think membership would drop, but the tone around the site definitely would definitely change.Originally Posted by Chef
And for the record... Ziggy says blow it up
i forgot to put at the end, i am in the blow up camp. just wanted to make sure we all know what is coming and what to expect. it would be unfair to advocate blow it up then membership to this site falls to 10 of us two years later because we are absolutely desolate on the court.
Blow this shit up! There's no point in losing without a motive. The Bobcats have no motive..and quite frankly...I don't know if they've EVER had a motive towards winning.
I'm going with blow it up as well. This is terrible! I've actually missed a few games this year and haven't even cared. They need to do something. I do think MJ is trying. I think something will go down in the Melo deal. And to say we need to follow OKC's way is saying we would have to draft well, and we know how that's been working for us. AND I JUST HAD ANOTHER FUTURE BOBCAT FAN YESTERDAY AND i COME HOME TO THIS SHIT FOR GAME!!!!!! Oh well, having a child definitely puts things in perspective though.
congrats. this is my rookie season with child as well. good luck watching any stretch of any game uninterrupted. hope you have a dvr because west coast games aren't going to happen period.
Haha, I have a 20 month as well. I know how it is. All I can say is THANK GOD FOR DVR!
I'll try to weigh-in quickly with a couple of quick thoughts...
1) LB left this team (mentally) at the end of last season so no one should be surprised this is happening...
2) I'm still in the "you can't blow up " what has never been functional...
3) Teams that constantly trade/let walk their best players for less talent are always doomed to failure...I was opposed to LB coming here...I was opposed to the Richardson trade (for what little it brought back)....I was opposed to trading EO50 (for what little it brought back)...I was opposed to letting Ray walk...my point....ask Ray or EO50 if they want to come back here...uh...kinda doubt it...
4) I've watched this team since day one (as many others here have) and frankly I've never been a fan of losing but at least the players played hard "all the time" under BBB and I miss that...
5) I'm all for any trade that actually makes this team better...but I do find it laughable that some fans here think the NBA actually works like video games...it does not and you have to have deep pockets and a great deal of luck to pull off what the Celtics did...we have neither...
6) We did not build with a solid core (Crash, Ray, and EO50) when we had the chance by hiring a coach to work with them...we hired a coach that did "blow up the team" and made us older, slower, less enthused, and damned boring to watch..so for all those that wanted the trades I mentioned above to happen...well they did...and for all those who wanted LB here well he is...if you don't like the results I understand...but it will take years to get out of this mess...
My hope is that we at least become entertaining again...I've used one, let me emphasize, one of my season tickets this year...that was enough for me...my kids have used a couple to see teams they like...but I doubt (after my daughter and her BF) watched the Celtics fiasco that I can get them to go again...
We have a fairly old-boring-unhappy team after the "last" blow up...so I suggest we all be careful what we wish for...but LB leaving would be a start for me...
A tribute to "Crash"...We'll miss you Dude...
Chef pretty much nailed it. I've been of the opinion that we have been "one piece to the puzzle" away from being a top-3 Eastern Conference team for the past couple of seasons. I wasn't sad about Felton leaving, but I did think he was better in a system that allowed him to do his thing. D'Antoni's system is unique and not many teams subscribe to it, so it's not like Felts could've went to Philly or the Clips and have the same success, but it shows our biggest problem, our coach. LB's luster wore off last year and this year it's turned it an all out coup. DJ was his pick, and he subsequently squashes the youngsters confidence and then tries to trade him the following year. Gerald Henderson isn't Brandon Roy or some stud SG, but given more PT and a bigger role, I think he could be a solid starter....or at worse a spark plug 6th-man. Not with Larry running the ship. Our team needs to be blown up starting with Coach and make some trades that free up cap space, net us some talent and draft picks. I don't know if this team is capable of being fixed on the fly. As an avid Knicks fan since I was a kid, I've endured a team that is not allowed to blow up a team in a city that demands success and is impatient. Isiah and Dolan spent a decade trying to do things on the fly and it was a disaster. Our woes have been drafting, managing our cap in "value-friendly" players, and getting burned in trades/free agent acquisitions. Diaw and Wallace's value needs to be used properly and not on old-ass Rip Hamilton. We screwed up the DUST chip, Tyson Chandler, Diaw-Devin Harris trade. We should have improved off our first successful season and instead have gone backwards.
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Hmmm, IDK, i have a 20 month old and a 2 month old. I take the 20 month old to weekday games and we have everyone asleep by 9:30 so we watch games regardless of where they are playing
Kids will acclimate to what you expect from them.
Back on topic like I have said since the summer this team is F'ed. Wallace shot his wad last year and the injuries are taking their long term toll, we have TT who basically is a younger Walalce with more size who inexplicably sits on the bench. Jax is Jax and is untradeable and while i like DJ and he is a solid offensive PG he cannot lead a team. Also our coach mentally checked out last year
Time to blow the F'er up. We MUST trade Wallace while he has any real trade value and try and get a real center and some scoring on this team. He is our only real movable assset. If the coach did not go senile we have a decent PG rotation, Jax is not going anywhere at SG, PF is probably overloaded with Diaw, TT, Brown, etc (I would package Diaw and Wallace as teams have interest in both). We then just need to fill C and SG which solves our lack of scoring and our lack of a real center. Our bench if used then is not too bad.
Time to make moves
Of course you blow it up. This whole MJ can't afford to blow it up and wants to rebuild on the fly stuff is so wrong. I think its hilarious that people think we will lose some huge fan base if we blow the team up and rebuild it. Obviously those people havent been to a game this year, especially on a weekday.
Look we have like 8000 people showing up to games as it is. MJ has nothing to lose. If anything, rebuilding with young guys and draft picks will keep us in the paper more. All the moves that surround that and people starting to realize that we are going younger will make it more exciting. As it is, I can hardly stand to go to the games. We are old, we have no future, we play the slowest blandest game i have ever been forced to sit through.
I have been saying for months that Larry is the problem. Hes trying to capture the Detroit lightning in a bottle again, and we dont have close to that talent. That team at least had someone who could put the ball in the hoop if need be. With Larry we have no future. Hes abandoned ship anyway like BRNC said... he was gone after last year. He doesnt want to be here. He knew how easy it was to make the playoffs last year, and he knows how far away we are from being any kind of a decent team.
GAMEPLAN:
Fire Larry. Hire some fresh blood, that has a system, that knows what he wants and doesnt waiver from it after a bad game. Someone with some fire, with a chip on his shoulder to prove something. someone young, with a future that doesnt consist of early bird specials.
Trade Gerald first. Let it be known that this is a rebuild. Let it be known that no one is safe. Make damn well sure players know you are serious. We will not miss him. I repeat, we will not miss him. What he does can be replaced easily.
Trade anyone else next. I dont mean trade everyone. I think we have some good pieces. I like Kwame at his rate. I like Brown, Hendo, Liv, DJ, and Tyrus especially. My point is, do whatever it takes to get younger, cheaper and to fit whatever plan the new coach regime has. If you wanna run, get runners. If you wanna slow it down, get bigs. etc.
Finally. Get a new identity. If the Hornets is available that would be a good start. This team has left a bad taste in Charlottes mouth since day 1. Why not jump at the chance to erase that? Winning is the only thing that will keep the stands full anymore, but I guarantee that far fewer people will hate/not care about the Hornets.
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