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    Quote Originally Posted by dnbman View Post
    Scary thought: If a lockout is imminent, many college players might choose to stay in school another year, making this draft weaker than usual. I may be making that scenario up. I hope so.
    don't worry about it, we will have that pick.

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    This whole franchise is in trouble. Felton is playing fantastic in New York. Jason Richardson is playing fantastic for Phoenix. Okafor has been up and down for New Orleans, but he's played better for them than he ever did here. Tyrus Thomas is playing fantastic for Dallas. So why is it that players flourish when they leave this team? I get the feeling that a lot of players simply don't want to come to Charlotte. If I were an NBA player I'd be less than enthused about playing for the Bobcats. Charlotte is no Miami, New York, or Chicago. No one attends the games. Attendance is an embarrassment. Hell, I'd rather play in Denver and Minnesota even though those places are frigid just because they're better cities. As a result, this team cannot and will not get better via free agency. Who would want to willingly come here?

    I think the Stephen Jackson trade was pretty stupid. He's always had an awful attitude and I think it has been contagious. I get the feeling there's a lot of bad blood between Crash and Jackson. As a result, it has effected both of their skills negatively on top of pissing off the rest of the team. DJ is not good enough. He wouldn't start on a vast majority of NBA teams because *gasp* he's a bench player, at best. I'd actually hold onto Diaw because he is an expiring contract and I don't think anyone is going to give them back anything of any real value in return.

    People are saying don't blow it up, but teams aren't going to help Charlotte out. It's not going to happen. Apparently, the front office thinks that Wallace and Jackson are worth more than they actually are. Which tells me that they'll stay put and trot out a team that is just bad enough to miss the playoffs, but not bad enough to be a lottery team. Hurray for mediocrity. Or, maybe they'll come to their senses and just try to get as much cap space/salary, draft picks, and young players in return.

    DJ = I have nothing against him as a person, but he's a bench player, at best. 90% of the teams in the NBA wouldn't think about trotting him out as their starting PG. Felton was a tremendous loss.

    Stephen Jackson = a head case that is known for having a bad attitude and causing problems for teams. Thinks he is a much better player than he actually is and has likely pissed off his teammates. Greg Popovich passed on him in the off season even though he's been one of the few coaches that can keep him under control. Even he knows that it's not worth the hassle.

    Crash = injury prone and seems like he has checked out. If he doesn't want to play here then someone can show him the door. If he really quit on this team like I think he has then he is a piece of shit prima donna.

    Mohammed = old and wouldn't start on 90%+ of NBA teams.

    Diaw = out of shape, soft, and Phoenix's leftovers of better days past. At least he is expiring, however.

    Kwame Brown = lol I still can't believe he is even on this team

    Gerald Henderson = who knows, he seems like another draft pick that was wasted, but he never plays

    Larry Brown - obviously wants to be fired and doesn't want to be here. He let that be known loud and clear in the off season

    Matt Carrol = terrible contract

    Diop = terrible contract

    That's our team, folks!
    Last edited by Absinthe; 12-17-2010 at 06:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absinthe View Post
    This whole franchise is in trouble. Felton is playing fantastic in New York. Jason Richardson is playing fantastic for Phoenix. Okafor has been up and down for New Orleans, but he's played better for them than he ever did here. Tyrus Thomas is playing fantastic for Dallas. So why is it that players flourish when they leave this team? I get the feeling that a lot of players simply don't want to come to Charlotte. If I were an NBA player I'd be less than enthused about playing for the Bobcats. Charlotte is no Miami, New York, or Chicago. No one attends the games. Attendance is an embarrassment. Hell, I'd rather play in Denver and Minnesota even though those places are frigid just because they're better cities. As a result, this team cannot and will not get better via free agency. Who would want to willingly come here?

    I think the Stephen Jackson trade was pretty stupid. He's always had an awful attitude and I think it has been contagious. I get the feeling there's a lot of bad blood between Crash and Jackson. As a result, it has effected both of their skills negatively on top of pissing off the rest of the team. DJ is not good enough. He wouldn't start on a vast majority of NBA teams because *gasp* he's a bench player, at best. I'd actually hold onto Diaw because he is an expiring contract and I don't think anyone is going to give them back anything of any real value in return.

    People are saying don't blow it up, but teams aren't going to help Charlotte out. It's not going to happen. Apparently, the front office thinks that Wallace and Jackson are worth more than they actually are. Which tells me that they'll stay put and trot out a team that is just bad enough to miss the playoffs, but not bad enough to be a lottery team. Hurray for mediocrity. Or, maybe they'll come to their senses and just try to get as much cap space/salary, draft picks, and young players in return.

    DJ = I have nothing against him as a person, but he's a bench player, at best. 90% of the teams in the NBA wouldn't think about trotting him out as their starting PG. Felton was a tremendous loss.

    Stephen Jackson = a head case that is known for having a bad attitude and causing problems for teams. Thinks he is a much better player than he actually is and has likely pissed off his teammates. Greg Popovich passed on him in the off season even though he's been one of the few coaches that can keep him under control. Even he knows that it's not worth the hassle.

    Crash = injury prone and seems like he has checked out. If he doesn't want to play here then someone can show him the door. If he really quit on this team like I think he has then he is a piece of shit prima donna.

    Mohammed = old and wouldn't start on 90%+ of NBA teams.

    Diaw = out of shape, soft, and Phoenix's leftovers of better days past. At least he is expiring, however.

    Kwame Brown = lol I still can't believe he is even on this team

    Gerald Henderson = who knows, he seems like another draft pick that was wasted, but he never plays

    Larry Brown - obviously wants to be fired and doesn't want to be here. He let that be known loud and clear in the off season

    Matt Carrol = terrible contract

    Diop = terrible contract

    That's our team, folks!
    boris has a player option for 9 mil next year. so, he has 2 years left. worse than that, we have diop for 2 more years where he is making 7.6 mil! how the hell did anyone let lb trade for him. good god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef View Post
    boris has a player option for 9 mil next year. so, he has 2 years left. worse than that, we have diop for 2 more years where he is making 7.6 mil! how the hell did anyone let lb trade for him. good god.
    They should just go ahead and trade Diaw then. I thought he was an expiring this year. And that Dampier trade looks increasingly more stupid considering they got back Carrol.

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    G Fore, that's funny as hell. He may not bring back a bag a rocks now, lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by DY_nasty View Post
    I remember when I said that we should trade Wallace for some late 1st round picks and everyone was all like "no way bro! you're crazy! g-force 4 life"

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    Just look at how this team was set up and mismanaged from the beginning by Bickerstaff. What they said they were going to do and what they did were two different things. Then Brown comes in and gets his guys in, and now he can't win with them so it's their fault. Meanwhile, any other coach looks at this roster and can't do anything with it.

    It's a damn mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absinthe View Post
    Tyrus Thomas is playing fantastic for Dallas.
    Tyrus Thomas is playing great for Charlotte.

    Never mind, I see where you're going with that.
    Last edited by JayTeeBeeTee; 12-17-2010 at 06:07 PM.

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    ESPN just updated their 'Future Power Rankings' which the first began last fall. Not shockingly we are still in 30th place out of the 30 NBA teams. Harshly realistic comments:

    30. Charlotte Bobcats | Future Power Rating: 195


    PLAYERS MANAGEMENT MONEY MARKET DRAFT
    50 (29th) 31 (29th) 42 (30th) 23 (26th) 49 (16th)

    A year ago, we ranked Charlotte dead last in these rankings despite the fact they were headed for the playoffs. Now you know why. With no money, no young talent and no sign that management has any cohesive plan for how to deal with these problems, the Bobcats have the most dismal future of any of the league's 30 teams.

    Normally, a bad team gets a lift from the draft, but even that is a question mark since the 'Cats sent a future first-rounder to Chicago for Tyrus Thomas. While Thomas has been one of their few bright spots, their only other good players are aging wings Stephen Jackson and Gerald Wallace. As a result, we rated Charlotte's players 29th of the 30 teams -- only Cleveland did worse.

    Money-wise, they're also in terrible straits. The Bobcats have managed their cap horribly and have no space for the foreseeable future, plus they're strapped enough that they spent the offseason shedding assets such as Tyson Chandler and Raymond Felton. The next asset to go, one presumes, is head coach Larry Brown, given his track record of leaving for greener pastures. It won't be hard to find more verdant ones than this barren patch.
    (Previous rank: 30)
    Closest to the Cats in the rankings were Cleveland, Toronto, Minnesota and Phoenix. And who knew the strongest thing about our team was our Drafting position (16th) and our Market (in comparison to the rest of the NBA, we are ranked 26th in that catagory above).
    Last edited by BlockParty; 12-18-2010 at 07:32 PM.


 

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