I don't post that often

[winthropbobcat]

but this is really getting embarrassing, we just got smoked by one of the worst teams in the league. LB continues to play Kwame Brown, Livingston, and McGuire more minutes than Tyrus Thomas, who is our best spark plug, and would be a double double guy if he started. WTF is going on w/ LB and this team. We have plenty of pieces for this team to be successful, what gives? Why not mix up the lineups to utilize the players we have that are best suited to play and contribute? I'm at a loss for words here. I don't know why LB doesn't look at starting DJ/JAX/Wallace/Tyrus/Diaw or Nazr. We have got to freaking do something. I understand Gerald is hurt, one would think Tyrus would start, but he's going w/ Dominic McGuire?? WTF is going on here. Please someone try and explain this for me.... Sorry just had to vent guys.

[dav7z]

but this is really getting embarrassing, we just got smoked by one of the worst teams in the league. LB continues to play Kwame Brown, Livingston, and McGuire more minutes than Tyrus Thomas, who is our best spark plug, and would be a double double guy if he started. WTF is going on w/ LB and this team. We have plenty of pieces for this team to be successful, what gives? Why not mix up the lineups to utilize the players we have that are best suited to play and contribute? I'm at a loss for words here. I don't know why LB doesn't look at starting DJ/JAX/Wallace/Tyrus/Diaw or Nazr. We have got to freaking do something. I understand Gerald is hurt, one would think Tyrus would start, but he's going w/ Dominic McGuire?? WTF is going on here. Please someone try and explain this for me.... Sorry just had to vent guys.

I have no idea whats going on none. I know im embarrasted . I had more hope under Ham Biscute . DJ sucked tonight and Brown finishes the game with him , Was it reward or punishment , Hindrick killed him . DJ can't seem to start a offensive set at all.
Jackson turns the ball over more than he shoots the ball and thats a lot, Jax jumper seems just ok but no where near decent[ a zone buster].
Mcquire hell he might be good on a AAU team . But the dude can't shoot as good as most high school players. Rebounds are nice but damn you need to be able to do more than that.
Nazz never has been a defencive stoper and couldn't do nothing against the young legs of McGee. He just couldn't match up .
Borris our best player this year . Never thiught i would say that ? But at least he looks like hes trying.

LB said put the blame on him . It not all Brown but hes right feilding a team looking like that. Has to be at as least partly on him.
Ive seen the blame passed all season from player to player coach to coach hear at the planet.
Im not a Basketball mind and know nothing about the game . But im all most embarresed to walk in to TWC tomorrow night, I would prefer he starts all the sub. They might show a little hustle. People talk abot a panic trade im sure MJ is about to make one . Because im ready to get fid of some of the crap we got off the floor. And who talked MJ in to thease off season signings needs thair ass fired.
Damn i could have done better in off season signings than who ever in the hell done this shit.

[Toocool]

I stopped watching half way. That was utterly pathetic. Disgusting. I'll probably be doing write up, so it'll give me the chance to rant and rave.

[TattoodCats4life]

Seriously, I don't know enough about the game to point to the problem, but in the last column on the box score the only zeros are Matt (DNP-CD) and McGuire.
Larry likes his "versatile" players, so they can slide a spot over if needed, but yet he's playing the worst 3 on our team to start instead of A:
DJ/Carroll/Jax/Diaw/Nazr or even better, DJ/Jax/Diaw/TT/Nazr

I can't image what kind of panic trade is coming, but we should know by next week.

[GoBobs]

Hindsight is 20/20 but Raymond Felton and Tyson Chandler are both having nice years so far. I think LB is a good coach. He can make an average team a little better and get them to the playoffs. Problem is that isn't a good long term development strategy in the NBA because of the way the draft is set up. If he had a talented group of natural scorers he could get them to play defense a little better and push them over the top.

Look at the difference in Raymond's stats this year. He is turning the ball over twice as much but averaging four more points and about three more assists. Now everyone is talking about what a great year he is having, but what is really the main difference? He is playing with aggression rather then trying not to make a mistake. I think we need to let it all hang out on offense. Don't worry about a turnover just get back and make a play. It doesn't matter if we don't turn it over all game, if we don't put it in the hoop enough we ain't going to win.

I think we miss Raymond Feltons leadership in the locker room too.

I still think we have a good team even though they aren't playing like it right now.

[GoBobs]

Also I am tired of all the McGuire hate. It isn't his fault what LB does with the minutes. He plays hard and despite his low fg% so far this season I think he is a pretty good player for the money we are paying him.

[dav7z]

Also I am tired of all the McGuire hate. It isn't his fault what LB does with the minutes. He plays hard and despite his low fg% so far this season I think he is a pretty good player for the money we are paying him.

I don't hate McGuire . But you can't honestly say this guy should start ? Flip is on the market now . Would have signed for a NBA min contract , You can't really belive McGuire is better than Flip.

We signed Livingston two years at 3.5 milion a year . Remember we signed him real early. It was a lot of vetran min contracts left when we signed him . Brown says he has the speed of a AAU player . Sad thing is he might be better than DJ.
You can't say that was a good signing either.
Do you really think our DUST CHIP was a good trade . It turned to two bad contracts and DUST.
Theo we could of signed him but we showed no instrest at all . So we end up with K Brown .;;; explain that..;;;;;;
And you try to justify starting McGuire ?? Over TT, UPS , Henderson , or even the Hammer . Hell the guy has done nothing in 4 years . I would rather have a dozen guys wanting back in the league. It is what it is a stupid signing on the Bobcats part very early in the off season . Hell the guy might be washing cars if it wasn't for L Brown. My question to you is how you justify all the love you have for the guy

[teej]

I don't hate McGuire . But you can't honestly say this guy should start ? Flip is on the market now . Would have signed for a NBA min contract , You can't really belive McGuire is better than Flip.

No one said McGuire was better than Flip, and no one said he should start.

We signed Livingston two years at 3.5 milion a year . Remember we signed him real early. It was a lot of vetran min contracts left when we signed him . Brown says he has the speed of a AAU player . Sad thing is he might be better than DJ.
You can't say that was a good signing either.

I think Shaun will be a solid player down the road, and he is the one guy on the roster who could benefit from LB. Plus he has a voidable contract in the third year so he will be a trade piece.

Do you really think our DUST CHIP was a good trade . It turned to two bad contracts and DUST.

It was an all-in attempt to get either Melo, CP3 or both. And it kept the team out of the tax, which means it ended up saving MJ and the cash-strapped business side around 10 million dollars and gave the basketball ops side flexibility if they needed to add salary. It turned out differently than we would have liked, but if you have a chance to get a superstar, that's a trade you make 100 times out of 100.

Theo we could of signed him but we showed no instrest at all . So we end up with K Brown .;;; explain that..;;;;;;

They gave Theo an offer, and he declined only because he wants a ring. They showed plenty of interest, and had the Lakers not come calling, Theo would be in Charlotte right now. Kwame was by far the best big man available for the team and he's played decently for a minimum guy. he's better than that 6+ million guy sitting in a suit every game, so there's that...

And you try to justify starting McGuire ?? Over TT, UPS , Henderson , or even the Hammer . Hell the guy has done nothing in 4 years . I would rather have a dozen guys wanting back in the league. It is what it is a stupid signing on the Bobcats part very early in the off season . Hell the guy might be washing cars if it wasn't for L Brown. My question to you is how you justify all the love you have for the guy

If McGuire wasn't forced to shoot the ball by his teammates, and wasn't forced to play 20+ minutes a game, he'd be a very good signing. He's a great defender, great rebounder and solid 2/3/4 matchup guy. But he's not a starter like LB is trying to make him and he's not worth more PT than Tyrus. He's better than UPS, he's miles ahead of Hendo (like everyone on the roster except Sherron and Gana) and Matt is not much better. We don't love him, but we respect that he tries to make do with what LB gives him. It's too much for him, but he tries like hell to make it work.

[Black]

Larry wants to be fired, Michael won't fire him. That's how it looks to me.

[dav7z]

No one said McGuire was better than Flip, and no one said he should start.
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Sone one did or we would have signed Flip? Browns starting him Why?



I think Shaun will be a solid player down the road, and he is the one guy on the roster who could benefit from LB. Plus he has a voidable contract in the third year so he will be a trade piece.
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Livingston is a liability on defence , But might still be better than DJ. Livingston will never be worth 3.5 per Felton is just making six



It was an all-in attempt to get either Melo, CP3 or both. And it kept the team out of the tax, which means it ended up saving MJ and the cash-strapped business side around 10 million dollars and gave the basketball ops side flexibility if they needed to add salary. It turned out differently than we would have liked, but if you have a chance to get a superstar, that's a trade you make 100 times out of 100.
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I understand the thory , But if that was the case why did we sign Livingston , McGuire so early . Why would we take on six miliom in contracts you give away Chandler . Toghter thats over 10 mil . We had no room to do nothing after that any way? That wasn't a smart basketball desion taking on those contracts.



They gave Theo an offer, and he declined only because he wants a ring. They showed plenty of interest, and had the Lakers not come calling, Theo would be in Charlotte right now. Kwame was by far the best big man available for the team and he's played decently for a minimum guy. he's better than that 6+ million guy sitting in a suit every game, so there's that...
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Theo wasn't offered early because we had Damp , If he would have been treated right . I think he would have signed very earky with us ?
Remember he srarted for us the last half of the season. I never saw any link we offered Theo any thing , LINK PLEASE



If McGuire wasn't forced to shoot the ball by his teammates, and wasn't forced to play 20+ minutes a game, he'd be a very good signing. He's a great defender, great rebounder and solid 2/3/4 matchup guy. But he's not a starter like LB is trying to make him and he's not worth more PT than Tyrus. He's better than UPS, he's miles ahead of Hendo (like everyone on the roster except Sherron and Gana) and Matt is not much better. We don't love him, but we respect that he tries to make do with what LB gives him. It's too much for him, but he tries like hell to make it work.

Do you really belive McGuire would start on any other team in the NBA under any circumstance?
You can't really belive hes even close to UPS in ability . Mc has scored less in his last five games put toghter than UPS scored tonight, UPS played less time than Mc tonight but was even or with in one in rebounds , Mc ssored another goose egg tonight UPS SCORED 9 in less playing time. Mc scored another 0 tonight. Mc got absolutly abused by Young tonight. He couldn't keep YOUNG out of the lane , UPS did explain that.
Mc better than Hendo , ? Hendo scored tonight . Had a very nice steal and assist , Mc Had no assist? Or points ,or steals, but hes better than Hendo?

You would rather have him over G Green, Mccants, Flip , ?




TEE you must have never had knee sergery , Ive had 7 of them , The guys luckey to walk on the floor , But the speed you see out of Livingston now is about al you going to get. Whitch means he can't keep any NBA point out of the lane .;LB said he had the speed of a AAU player and Browns not lieing about that. And you think that was a good signing.

Damp still isn't playing ? Why do we not arrempt yo sign him . We 5 mil under the tax. Something could have been worked befor we releaced him . Do you see K Brown better than Damp?

I see you trying you defend all thease stupid moves. But i see no evidence at all thet thease moves was good.

Nothing personal im just call this disaster the way i see it . Im sure you don't see all the home games and all the crap thet goes on . Its one lazy noncareing bunch.