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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    I don't understand why our FO is trying to trade Crash for what basically amounts to vets on expiring/almost expiring deals. If you trade Crash, its got to be for young talent like Batum and picks. Otherwise, why trade him it all? Our performance in his absence has demonstrated how valuable he is to this team. It seems like the FO hasn't learned its lesson about jerry rigging teams together w/ vets to try to get into the 1st round and get swept.

    I said it before and I'll say it again, this franchise operates like its goal is to get to a 1st round playoff series but we can't do that: our goal should be championship or bust.
    Well MJ has said this year that his goal was to get back to the playoffs - Higgins as well.

    I disagree with both.

    However, I will say that Crash is done and the sooner we trade him the better. When he's off the court, the team is trash. When he's on the court, the team is trash. The big issue, is that when Crash is playing now - its nowhere near the same level that we're all accustomed to seeing and its becoming more and more apparent that the injuries have caught up with him this season. The last thing any Bobcats fan wants to see is Zombie Wallace, a guy who made a career on hustle and defense who can no longer do either. The only thing worse than overpaying a guy to stay is going out of your way to keep a guy who's lost his value.

    Give me a young shooting guard with some range that will allow us to move Jackson to his rightful place at the 3 and I'm good.

    With the new CBA being up in the air, I'd much rather us horde young players than worry about salary situations.

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    Is there the possibility that they really only want Camby and use Miller as part of a trade for Harris. Since Miller's contract is an expiring or non gaurenteed it might be something Den or NJ could want. just wondering

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    3 Step Trade Process that could actually work!

    First Trade- Tyrus, Jackson to the Magic for Reddick, Nelson, and Anderson...its already been rumored...bear with me

    Second Trade- Diop and Carrol to the Pistons for Rip...again, already been rumored

    Third Trade- Wallace, Dj, and Kwame to the Kings for Landry and Thompson

    http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade...radeid=5783517

    New Line-Up

    C-Thompson/Nazy
    PF-Landry/Anderson
    SF-Diaw/Brown
    SG-Rip/Reddick
    PG-Nelson/Livingston

    Bobcats go for the complete overhaul...MJ is too stubborn to completely rebuild so he makes moves that add some youth but can still compete...this trade also saves them about $5 million instantly which MJ will like...they get a young an talented pg in nelson, Rip gives them veteran leadership with reddick as a great scoring 6th man...allows diaw to move to a more natural position in SF, trading tyrus gives them 2 cheaper talents in landry and anderson...plus they add a young big man in thompson...charlotte fans might be mad to lose wallace an jackson, but this team wasnt going anywhere

    Best part is we get rid of our two worst contracts in diop and carrol and still have a talented team!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCW View Post
    Is there the possibility that they really only want Camby and use Miller as part of a trade for Harris. Since Miller's contract is an expiring or non gaurenteed it might be something Den or NJ could want. just wondering
    That's a good thought. He'd be a stop gap until Denver moved Melo and it'd allow us to get a PG that's good for more than just the present.

    Quote Originally Posted by Weezy21 View Post
    First Trade- Tyrus, Jackson to the Magic for Reddick, Nelson, and Anderson...its already been rumored...bear with me
    Has that exact trade been rumored? I'm actually surprised it works (it does) as both Tyrus & Reddick are both BYC.

    I would stop after #2, but that might just be me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weezy21 View Post
    3 Step Trade Process that could actually work!

    First Trade- Tyrus, Jackson to the Magic for Reddick, Nelson, and Anderson...its already been rumored...bear with me

    Second Trade- Diop and Carrol to the Pistons for Rip...again, already been rumored

    Third Trade- Wallace, Dj, and Kwame to the Kings for Landry and Thompson

    http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade...radeid=5783517

    New Line-Up

    C-Thompson/Nazy
    PF-Landry/Anderson
    SF-Diaw/Brown
    SG-Rip/Reddick
    PG-Nelson/Livingston

    Bobcats go for the complete overhaul...MJ is too stubborn to completely rebuild so he makes moves that add some youth but can still compete...this trade also saves them about $5 million instantly which MJ will like...they get a young an talented pg in nelson, Rip gives them veteran leadership with reddick as a great scoring 6th man...allows diaw to move to a more natural position in SF, trading tyrus gives them 2 cheaper talents in landry and anderson...plus they add a young big man in thompson...charlotte fans might be mad to lose wallace an jackson, but this team wasnt going anywhere

    Best part is we get rid of our two worst contracts in diop and carrol and still have a talented team!
    I really, really like where you're going with this. While I'd be inclined to stop after trade #2 like spectre, this is a youth overhaul that I believe can compete for and nab a playoff spot. Nelson's a highly talented point guard that this team could use (I haven't seen that trade rumored, but I'd be inclined to do it right now, were it not a jerk-like move to trade someone on Christmas Eve) and Rip's shooting ability and veteran leadership are also in high demand here, I believe.

    If for no other reason, I also like it because it'd be interesting to see how many people's heads explode (not if...how many) at TWC Arena when Big Pat says "Now entering the game for your Bobcats, JJ Reddick!!"

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    The Magic need a center. That trade would have to net them Mohammed or I can't see them doing that.

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    It would be sheer insanity to trade TT. We have him locked up for cheap and his upside is nuts. Hopefully Silas starts him right away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winthropbobcat View Post
    It would be sheer insanity to trade TT. We have him locked up for cheap and his upside is nuts. Hopefully Silas starts him right away.


    TT is in his 5th season and didn't improve since his rookie season, dumb as nuts, and not worth more than the MLE. We definitely overpaid him.
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    I dunno about that. His per 36 numbers are a lot better this year than any other year of his career, at least offensively. His free throw shooting his dramatically improved. His FG and TS% are also dramatically improved. If Oakley takes him under his wing a little bit, beefs him up, and "fixes" his attitude, he could be an all star. I think under Silas he should get at least a few more MPG too. Hopefully

    I also don't see why everyone says he doesn't have a shot. His mid range game shot is the best part of his game. He's no Stro

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