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    Yes, I've taken it upon myself to remove the first initial. I know based on his play the past couple games I'll come across as a wet blanket, but I don't want people fooled by production on the offensive end.

    Against the Pistons Will Bynum repeatedly toasting J led to six 4th quarter assists that were instrumental in keying their comeback. Similarly, Ramon Sessions lit J up for 11 4th quarter points that was a big part in a combined 14-2 stretch for the Cavs.

    Bynum has posted only one game with more assists than he had in just the 4th quarter and that was in 37 minutes of action v. NO. Sessions posted a season high in points and FTs against the Saint.

    This is by no means a new trend, but with J's recent performance on the offensive end, I know a lot of people, including my secret admirer, will attempt to say that between his A/T ratio and scoring he's having a good year. I want to nip that in the bud.

    Another big issue I have with J, is that Gerald has gone from All-Star to afterthought. It's clear that J loves Jack and looks for him every time on the offensive end, but he's effectively rendered Gerald useless. Now, Gerald has spent an inordinate amount of time hanging out in the corner like he's Rashard Lewis, but it's on the PG to get people involved and when the lineup consists of J, Matt, Livingston, McGuire and Gerald, one wouldn't think it would be unrealistic for your highest paid player and All-Star to get even one touch. Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks to me like these guys aren't on the same page and it doesn't seem like J has any interest in fixing it. Given a choice between the two, I know who I would pick.

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    i agree with your post, but it just isn't dj giving up leads in the 4th quarter. we are not a very good team and definitely a terribly inconsistent team. nothing new since the coaching change either. we are having more fun, playing to our strengths and scoring more but we still have all of the same problems.

    it is easy to see that gerald has been lost all year without ray and him and jax have trouble being on the floor at the same time. it isn't a not getting along personally type of thing but more of a clashing of styles. jax is clearly the better offensive player but what he does to be effective makes wallace ineffective.

    we should definitely hold on to dj but should use this stretch to boost the value of both jax and crash to trade for a rebuild.

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    I don't care what he's giving up on D, he's getting it back on offense. And honestly, with his quickness, he 'll defense will improve with the more confidence he builds up that LB destroyed IMO. I'm not worried about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proudiddy View Post
    I don't care what he's giving up on D, he's getting it back on offense. And honestly, with his quickness, he 'll defense will improve with the more confidence he builds up that LB destroyed IMO. I'm not worried about it.
    Sure he's getting it back against the Pistons and the Cavs. Will he do the same against better teams? I have serious reservations. The last two games the team has clearly had the plan of attacking him on the defensive end in the 4th and have done so with tremendous success. That's absolutely cause for concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ampsportsduo View Post
    Sure he's getting it back against the Pistons and the Cavs. Will he do the same against better teams? I have serious reservations. The last two games the team has clearly had the plan of attacking him on the defensive end in the 4th and have done so with tremendous success. That's absolutely cause for concern.
    Well, we'll have to see... Was it primarily Bynum he played against vs. the Pistons? I didn't get to watch, but I was wondering if he matched up against Stuckey as well, who is a pretty good defender from what I've seen, but I know Stuckey has been injured so IDK. Either way, I see your point ASD, but I'm confident that DJ is gonna keep up the solid play. He looks like a different player now, just in body language and he's got that swagger back like he knows and is sure of what he's doing.

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    After watching a defense-first, burn the shot clock down and conservative offensive team for the better part of 6 years, I'm okay with our pg if he's a scorer first. It's not traditional and ideal per se, but we have lacked a deadly shooter for some time. I agree with Chef on the Jax-Wallace relationship on the court. Wallace was looking bad before Silas got here and pre-injury as well. With the age and long-term potential of Crash and Jackson, I feel we need to keep amping up their stats, and ship them out before it's too late. By too late, I mean Jax regresses back to his bitterness, and technical circus and Wallace stays in a funk even longer. DJ has his deficiencies, and I agree with ya Amp that he may not be able to do this against the premier players, but I just hope DJ is in the plans long-term for this franchise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ampsportsduo View Post
    Yes, I've taken it upon myself to remove the first initial. I know based on his play the past couple games I'll come across as a wet blanket, but I don't want people fooled by production on the offensive end.

    Against the Pistons Will Bynum repeatedly toasting J led to six 4th quarter assists that were instrumental in keying their comeback. Similarly, Ramon Sessions lit J up for 11 4th quarter points that was a big part in a combined 14-2 stretch for the Cavs.

    Bynum has posted only one game with more assists than he had in just the 4th quarter and that was in 37 minutes of action v. NO. Sessions posted a season high in points and FTs against the Saint.

    This is by no means a new trend, but with J's recent performance on the offensive end, I know a lot of people, including my secret admirer, will attempt to say that between his A/T ratio and scoring he's having a good year. I want to nip that in the bud.

    Another big issue I have with J, is that Gerald has gone from All-Star to afterthought. It's clear that J loves Jack and looks for him every time on the offensive end, but he's effectively rendered Gerald useless. Now, Gerald has spent an inordinate amount of time hanging out in the corner like he's Rashard Lewis, but it's on the PG to get people involved and when the lineup consists of J, Matt, Livingston, McGuire and Gerald, one wouldn't think it would be unrealistic for your highest paid player and All-Star to get even one touch. Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks to me like these guys aren't on the same page and it doesn't seem like J has any interest in fixing it. Given a choice between the two, I know who I would pick.
    ...you mean you have another secret admirer besides me?

    I think you're right on all counts, but 2 games vs. the worst teams in the league has some thinking he's "MVP" and an all star.

    Funny how Crash has went from all star/1st defense all NBA to scrub in what...about 6 months? Yeah, he's done at 28. He's obviously fallen on his head one too many times and it's time to get out. Trade him for expirings.

    Silas addressed his lackings as a PG in his post game. We all know it; Larry Brown is now "the devil" (que Waterboy flashbacks), but he still isn't running the team and guys who aren't creators are suffering for it.

    Hopefully he can keep the scoring up...because if he can't he's a big liability otherwise.
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    How could people be fooled about his production it is what is 55 points 10 assist 1 turnover there is no disputing that in addition to two WINS in a row. Why you sit and say it's against bad teams man we got our ass kicked by 30 against a bad team...I watch at least two games every night of the week on league pass and i see all the elites get ran by constantly but guess what they all have somebody protecting that rim. But all in all I hope he gets traded and you all get your defensive stopper and proven winners Baron Davis, Andre Miller, Devin harris, Sebastian Telfair or whom ever else. Maybe if we are winnning with Wallace not being involved as you say that means he is expendable and can trade him for the big we need. Thought about that especially when he is standing in the corner and get thrown a pass and runs over the defender to rack or jacks up that crooked jumpshot. Ithought sh#t was a measured by wins. Two wins iin a row and you start this post where was this when we got blown by at least 20 three games in a row.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ballwhore View Post
    How could people be fooled about his production it is what is 55 points 10 assist 1 turnover there is no disputing that in addition to two WINS in a row. Why you sit and say it's against bad teams man we got our ass kicked by 30 against a bad team...I watch at least two games every night of the week on league pass and i see all the elites get ran by constantly but guess what they all have somebody protecting that rim. But all in all I hope he gets traded and you all get your defensive stopper and proven winners Baron Davis, Andre Miller, Devin harris, Sebastian Telfair or whom ever else. Maybe if we are winnning with Wallace not being involved as you say that means he is expendable and can trade him for the big we need. Thought about that especially when he is standing in the corner and get thrown a pass and runs over the defender to rack or jacks up that crooked jumpshot.
    Agreed. I think DJ is doing GREAT. I wated another PG in LB's offense because everyone can agree that DJ wasn't doing well in that. But in the Silas offense he is fantastic. Gerald Wallace is a shell of his old self. WTF was he doing last night? If DEN wants Wallace for Melo, do the trade now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ballwhore View Post
    How could people be fooled about his production it is what is 55 points 10 assist 1 turnover there is no disputing that in addition to two WINS in a row. Why you sit and say it's against bad teams man we got our ass kicked by 30 against a bad team...I watch at least two games every night of the week on league pass and i see all the elites get ran by constantly but guess what they all have somebody protecting that rim. But all in all I hope he gets traded and you all get your defensive stopper and proven winners Baron Davis, Andre Miller, Devin harris, Sebastian Telfair or whom ever else. Maybe if we are winnning with Wallace not being involved as you say that means he is expendable and can trade him for the big we need. Thought about that especially when he is standing in the corner and get thrown a pass and runs over the defender to rack or jacks up that crooked jumpshot. Ithought sh#t was a measured by wins. Two wins iin a row and you start this post where was this when we got blown by at least 20 three games in a row.
    I agree as well. its not as if he was playing great D when LB was here so this isn't new news. You can always nitpick a players performance and that is obviously people's right. I think with DJ over the last two games, we should be very happy that he's out of his "funk" and is playing with confidence and joy. That's a huge step for a guy that was clearly lost with LB. Let's stop the nitpicking and just be happy for once.

    If you are a not a DJ fan (which I am not sure I am) and want someone else, at least be happy that he's helping his trade value. Wish we could say the same for Crash.


 

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