2011 NBA Draft Wants

[Bobcats_Basketball]

I feel the front office needs to draft a big man with their first round pick. I think this is a given anyway, but you never know with MJ running the show. For the second round, I say the bobcats looks for a slasher/scorer with some decent speed. As a University of Virginia fan, watching mustapha farrakhan play basketball makes me think he could be a low risk - high reward player if the Cats can grab him in the second round.

Let's hear what other players are out there.

[SWedd523]

this draft class is going to be very weak as far as big men go. The only true post players that are top 20 talents are Kanter, Sullinger, and Trey Thompkins. We'd have to have a lottery pick to keep our selection so the only guys we could really look at are Kanter and Sullinger. But both of those guys will be top 5ish picks so we'd have to suck pretty massively to get either one. Even still, Sullinger is a pure PF while Kanter doesn't have ideal size for an NBA Center himself.


If we keep our pick, Harrison Barnes should be our target. He seems to be falling due to his lackluster play thus far, and if he's available in the 8-12 range we should go for it. Terrence Jones would be my secondary choice for this slot, though I personally don't like him that much. Barnes can fill in at either spot for Jack/Crash and make both of them equally expendable. Jones is more of a SF/PF combo so he's a bit more post-oriented than Barnes. Kyrie Irving would trump both of them if he declared, but I have doubts that he will--with his injury.


As for late first/early second rounders, we should have four targets, two guards and two big men: Nolan Smith, Klay Thompson ... and JaJuan Johnson, Keith Benson.

[teej]

What about Jan Vesely?

[SWedd523]

From DX:

His ball-handling skills remain mediocre at best. Watching him handle the ball in the open floor is definitely not a pretty sight. He's able to beat his defender off the dribble at times with his first step, but it's still something of an adventure for him trying to create his own shot from the perimeter—you just never know how things are going to turn out. He's not someone you want making decisions with the ball. His feel for the game is just average and it's not rare to see him make bad decisions, particularly in the form of unnecessary turnovers.

If unable to convert with a dunk around the rim, Vesely still has problems finishing through contact due to a distinct lack of strength. He doesn't put good touch on his shots and is definitely not the most fluid or instinctive offensive player you'll find. Many times he seems to just throw the ball up on the rim hoping for the best.

Even with his prodigious athleticism, Vesely still isn't much of a presence on the glass. He grabs just one defensive rebound for every 10 ½ minutes he's on the court, which is a very poor rate. It's here that his lack of girth and poor instincts seem to show the most. He's too skinny to put a body on opponents, and he doesn't pursue the ball off the rim the way you might hope.

We already have a Derrick Brown on our team.

[docend24]

Lol, comparison to Derrick Brown...well, no comment. And "if we keep our pick" - there is no scenario in which we could not keep it...

[SWedd523]

Hyperbole aside, I don't think he brings enough to the table to make him a worthwhile pick that high. He's competing with both Barnes and Jones and he's not on their level. His perimeter game isn't as refined as Barnes, and his post game isn't as good as Jones. Is he a good mix between the two? Yes, but being good at a bunch of things but not really great at anything doesn't help him when comparing him to his competition.

You'll obviously have a better breakdown of him than I would as I only see game clips, highlights, and breakdowns, so if you would like to add something I know everyone here would love to hear it. (I know you posted on him on RGM but I can't seem to find that post)


As for the pick, I don't know why I thought it went into limbo in 2011 when it's 2012. Oh well, ignore the "if" part out of my above post!

[docend24]

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/view...7422&start=164
I'm not his advocate. With him being a physical specimen with to some extent unorthodox skillset there is a possibility he will be a bust. But he is not one dimensional player like Derrick Brown. I love draftexpress but they didn't underline that his rebounding is influced by him playing SF and not being particularly responsible for defensive rebounds (he oftens guards his player too far from the rim if his man doesn't drive). I'm not really suggesting Bobcats to draft him rather I'm excited where he'll end up as he is one of a generation type of player and I surely want him to do well. On the other hand I try not really valueate him as it is hard to be sure I would not be influenced by wishful thinking homerism. The last thing I want is him being a bust on a Bobcats roster

[docend24]

Oh and what's too high? Draftexpress has him at 11 and NBAdraft,net at 20 (but they always suck on getting the order right and cluelessly underrating Euros). If his drops out of a lottery somehow he is nobrainer no matter how risky pick he could be.

[Fred Williamson]

I would love to package either Crash or Jax and our pick for a top10 lotto pick to get Sullinger

[Chef]

if the class is weak and we can't get a player we need or highly want within the lotto, i would definitely be all for trading the pick for bad contracts, younger talent and/or picks for the 2012 draft to replace our potential loss of pick to chicago.

bellichek style.