Let's be Realistic about the trades

[Demon DeaCat]

As it currently stands, we have around 50 million on the books for next year and around 42 million for the year after that. It sounds nice until you realize that the 50 million is only dedicated to ten players, of which NONE are Centers and only ONE is a Small Forward. So we'll have roughly 15 mil to invest in multiple big men and backup wings.... before you consider the CBA could make money even tighter.


In 2012/13, we have 42 on the books for 8 players. Our depth chart that year (without signings) is:

DJ/Livingston
Henderson/Hammer
Jack
Tyrus/White
Diop


That is a ton of money for a ton of sucktitude, the only good players on the team by then will be Tyrus, DJ, and maybe Hendo.



The nice thing, is that the following year only holds commitments to Tyrus and Hendo, so we'll be able to really rebuild starting in 2013/14. The bad thing is, we probably have to wait at least 2 more years for the rebuild to start

Swedd,

How do you figure that we have 42 on the books for 12/13? Unless I'm totally reading the hoopshype chart wrong (which is possible) our only guaranteed contracts are:

Jack- 10
TT- 8
Gana- 7.3
Carroll- 3.5

That's a total of 28.8.

It's likely we'd pick up Hendo and DJ, but we wouldn't have to.

[WrxErik]

kobe does not equal crash now or ever. kobe sells out arenas, crash does not. kobe can win you a championship, crash can not. kobe makes you money, crash does not. and mj does all that but 100x better than kobe in the 90's.

If you don't think that Wallace was the equivalent to kobe or MJ to the Bobcats then you must have crazy expectations for such a young team. Wallace did not sell out arenas but he put asses in seats more than anyone ever on our team. There is no way we are getting to the finals so we are not getting a championship anyways. But he did take us to our first ever playoff appearance. Finally if you don't think Crash made us money you are delusional. #1 selling jersey, face of the franchise, always featured when trying to sell season tickets. I mean hell go look at the bobcats facebook page. Everyone is freaking out. The loss of Wallace alone will decrease ticket sales and attendance.

Also for everyone who thinks Cunningham is a young asset you are wrong. He is nothing more than an expiring. That is all we got back in these trades. 2 picks and money in MJ's pocket.

Also what makes you really believe MJ is serious about trying to bring a championship here, and attract quality free agents? I would think if that was on his agenda he would focus on things like getting a larger TV market so fans can actually watch their team on TV. But guess what, that cost money so that is why it has not happened. What about maybe a more attractive team name. It has been discussed so much and it is well know that the majority of fans do not care for the name. If the fans do not like it, do you really think actual players like it? I mean shit they make a huge reference to it on a freaking video game for gods sake. But once again guess what, That costs money. Are you following the trend yet or do I need to continue?

[SWedd523]

Jack- 10.06
Tyrus- 8
Diop- 7.3722
Carroll- 3.5
Shaun- 3.5 (TO)
DJ- 4.3854
Hendo- 3.1013
White- 3.0018

[Chef]

If you don't think that Wallace was the equivalent to kobe or MJ to the Bobcats then you must have crazy expectations for such a young team. Wallace did not sell out arenas but he put asses in seats more than anyone ever on our team. There is no way we are getting to the finals so we are not getting a championship anyways. But he did take us to our first ever playoff appearance. Finally if you don't think Crash made us money you are delusional. #1 selling jersey, face of the franchise, always featured when trying to sell season tickets. I mean hell go look at the bobcats facebook page. Everyone is freaking out. The loss of Wallace alone will decrease ticket sales and attendance.

Also for everyone who thinks Cunningham is a young asset you are wrong. He is nothing more than an expiring. That is all we got back in these trades. 2 picks and money in MJ's pocket.

Also what makes you really believe MJ is serious about trying to bring a championship here, and attract quality free agents? I would think if that was on his agenda he would focus on things like getting a larger TV market so fans can actually watch their team on TV. But guess what, that cost money so that is why it has not happened. What about maybe a more attractive team name. It has been discussed so much and it is well know that the majority of fans do not care for the name. If the fans do not like it, do you really think actual players like it? I mean shit they make a huge reference to it on a freaking video game for gods sake. But once again guess what, That costs money. Are you following the trend yet or do I need to continue?

the bobcats lose money. wallace was the face of the franchise but someone has to be so it was his job by default/seniority. the bobcats are a joke of a franchise compared to other teams in the league. look, i love the cats and so do several thousand people in and around charlotte, but for all of the reasons you mentioned in the subsequent paragraphs, crash can not be compared to kobe or mj. yes, people came to see crash (my wife said she is going to miss hearing gerald w w w wallace after hearing he was traded) but we barely sell out the lower bowl on weekend games much less week night games. he may be OUR mj or kobe, but he is a d-league sideshow compared to the impact those players have around the league and beyond.

as for the rest of your post, couldn't agree more.

[Chef]

Jack- 10.06
Tyrus- 8
Diop- 7.3722
Carroll- 3.5
Shaun- 3.5 (TO)
DJ- 4.3854
Hendo- 3.1013
White- 3.0018

this is exactly why we should package our NO pick with diop and move him at draft time for an expiring contract. it is also exactly why we should have never given tyrus that ridiculous contract.

[Marvel]

Trade grade. Z-

[SWedd523]

We should have packaged Diop with Crash

[WrxErik]

the bobcats lose money. wallace was the face of the franchise but someone has to be so it was his job by default/seniority. the bobcats are a joke of a franchise compared to other teams in the league. look, i love the cats and so do several thousand people in and around charlotte, but for all of the reasons you mentioned in the subsequent paragraphs, crash can not be compared to kobe or mj. yes, people came to see crash (my wife said she is going to miss hearing gerald w w w wallace after hearing he was traded) but we barely sell out the lower bowl on weekend games much less week night games. he may be OUR mj or kobe, but he is a d-league sideshow compared to the impact those players have around the league and beyond.

as for the rest of your post, couldn't agree more.

I understand what you mean Chef. But yeah Mj says he wants to make this team relevant and win a title but those are just words to bring him more money. All the actions he has made up to this point say otherwise though which is what sucks.

[Chef]

I understand what you mean Chef. But yeah Mj says he wants to make this team relevant and win a title but those are just words to bring him more money. All the actions he has made up to this point say otherwise though which is what sucks.

as a business man and owner mj probably does not want to lose money on a team that has no shot at a title and has reached its peak. i don't blame him for this deal. it is one of more to come. i think as fans we come up with our version of how the cats rebuild should go in that we say lets move diaw for this, naz for this, package jax with diop for this etc. in less than 2 years we have come up with a plan to rebuild and start with an OKC type team. the problem is jordan is forced to do it for real with real gm's and owners who are looking out for their best interests financially and competitively. this is the first step, it just happens to involve our favorite player because apparently no other vet on our roster was worth much to the other teams. this rebuild is going to take years to get to back to even and then a few years of up and coming status. it is not going to be a fun time to be a cat's fan.

i would have loved to see us move crash and diop for pryz and another expiring but it just wasn't going to happen. his injury risk and future salary obligations made him less valuable to other teams than what we value him.