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    Default Higgins: "we don't want to be the 7th or 8th spot"

    So, are we tanking this season to have a lottery pick plus the NOH pick? Weird Higgins said this after MJ sent out the letter saying we are still trying to make the playoffs.

    Idk about you, but when I saw this I didn't think he was talking about getting 6th or higher (especially this year), I got the impression he meant we weren't going to sit around and get the same results as last year so we'd rather blow it up now.

    Still wish they would've done something with Diaw over the summer, and again, still not happy with what we got back out of our trades, but we'll see what happens...

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    I don't want to be a 7th, 8th seed team either, not happy what we got back from our trades.

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    Tanking or trying to win it all - you never want to be a 7th or 8th seed. Whats the issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DY_nasty View Post
    Tanking or trying to win it all - you never want to be a 7th or 8th seed. Whats the issue?
    Because the bobcats winning a title any time soon is completely unrealistic. Same goes for about 25 other NBA teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DY_nasty View Post
    Tanking or trying to win it all - you never want to be a 7th or 8th seed. Whats the issue?
    For a franchise in its sixth and seventh years of existence, ANY playoff spot is acceptable. Also, if in tank mode, why wait this long? Why the coaching change? Also, where is the evidence we are "trying to win it all"? Those are my issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeagle View Post
    For a franchise in its sixth and seventh years of existence, ANY playoff spot is acceptable. Also, if in tank mode, why wait this long? Why the coaching change? Also, where is the evidence we are "trying to win it all"? Those are my issues.
    This is right on point.

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    I think it is important for us to make the playoffs in general to help establish ourselves as a team that can contend, Maybe not contend for the title, but atleast contend for spots more well-known teams can get. Plus, the better we do, the more we develop a fan base...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeagle View Post
    For a franchise in its sixth and seventh years of existence, ANY playoff spot is acceptable. Also, if in tank mode, why wait this long? Why the coaching change? Also, where is the evidence we are "trying to win it all"? Those are my issues.
    I never said that we were tanking. Just that either way being a 7 or 8 seed isn't any kind of goal nor should it be a plateau. I don't think we're tanking, but I do think that Higgins and the FO realized that the most we could do with our core next year would be something along those lines. After next year, what? May as well start the process of rebuilding. The East is so bad this year... 7 games under .500 and in the playoff hunt? Thats nothing to be happy about. Thats circumstance.

    Next year the East will be vastly improved. If we just sat on our hands, we'd be worse off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DY_nasty View Post
    I never said that we were tanking. Just that either way being a 7 or 8 seed isn't any kind of goal nor should it be a plateau. I don't think we're tanking, but I do think that Higgins and the FO realized that the most we could do with our core next year would be something along those lines. After next year, what? May as well start the process of rebuilding. The East is so bad this year... 7 games under .500 and in the playoff hunt? Thats nothing to be happy about. Thats circumstance.

    Next year the East will be vastly improved. If we just sat on our hands, we'd be worse off.
    Point taken, and I appreciate what the FO is trying to do if that's the case, but I don't see with what we acquired in trades we will be better off next year than if we had stood pat. We got virtually no talent in return, a couple worthless mid round picks (and among those, not even one to offset the '12 pick we gave to CHI), and saved a few bucks which will be used to sign...........?

    As a fan, I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt, but this sure isn't looking like any rebuilding project I've ever seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DY_nasty View Post
    Tanking or trying to win it all - you never want to be a 7th or 8th seed. Whats the issue?
    Because we are on that line walking between "tanking or trying to win it all." I mentioned repeatedly last night after the trades that all of them showed that the front office and franchise lacks direction. There hasn't been a clear "plan of action" anonunced and set in place, and if any foundation was laid out, we've contradicted it with our actions.

    *MJ said we were going to the playoffs this year - trades franchise player for intangible draft picks of which will likely become some overseas project, and Pryzbilla. Playoffs?

    *Silas says no trades are going down, happy with what we had, gonna make a run, etc. - trades happen.

    *MJ sends out letter last night to try and reassure fans he has a plan and knows what he's doing. Trades targeted young players to help us continue run for playoffs this year... Really? DJ White and Cunningham are both 4s, each either lacking size or ability to play another position. We already have Diaw, Ty, Najera... So you're telling me those are the guys we were determined to get out of those trades? No... We took scraps... Like dogs... whatever they gave us.
    Then Higgins comes out and says this today... So which is it? Are we trying to get in the Top 6 seeds this year? Not when you're trading assets now hoping they'll turn into something later.

    That's my complaint. So someone is lying. And it clearly shows they are on different pages, and MJ can't even show up to the presser... golf and cigars must've ran over.

    Quote Originally Posted by WrxErik View Post
    Because the bobcats winning a title any time soon is completely unrealistic. Same goes for about 25 other NBA teams.
    This.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheBeagle View Post
    For a franchise in its sixth and seventh years of existence, ANY playoff spot is acceptable. Also, if in tank mode, why wait this long? Why the coaching change? Also, where is the evidence we are "trying to win it all"? Those are my issues.
    This also.


 

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