Operation rebuild: 2013

[Chef]

The Wallace deal and Pao Gasol deals were not even close to being similar.

i was talking about chris wallace the gm for the griz. as in what if the hornets want to do a wallace-esque deal for cp3 ie trade him for negative 25 cents on the dollar.

[Chef]

Seriously...what are the odds we're going to end up with a Marc Gasol?

Remember at the time that was considered a terrible giveaway trade by the Griz. Ended up they didn't do so bad after all.

it is still the single worst trade of the past 20 years

[spectre]

it is still the single worst trade of the past 20 years

Was it really?

The Pau Gasol trade revisited

But let's not disregard what this trade has done for the Grizzlies.

Original assets received from LA:
Kwame Brown (expiring)
Javaris Crittenden
Aaron McKie
Two unprotected 1st round draft picks (2008, 2010)
Draft rights to Marc Gasol

Back then it looked to be a terrible trade. But looking back, this is what the Grizzlies REALLY got.

- Marc Gasol who is blossoming into one of the best young center in the league
- Zach Randolph...because without Kwame's expiring Memphis doesn't have the cap flexibility to absorb Randolph's contract.
- Darrell Arthur (compliments of LA's 2008 1st)
- A 1st rounder in 2010

And now...another thing to add to the list...Ronnie Brewer.

Memphis used Crittenden to get back the 1st round pick that was originally traded by Memphis for Juan Carlos Navarro back in 2007. What did Memphis use to get Brewer? That pick.

I would say that Memphis getting a starting PF, starting center, two solid backups, and another 1st rounder is starting to look like a much more balanced traded in regard to what BOTH TEAMS were trying to get accomplished.

[dnbman]

Was it really?

The Pau Gasol trade revisited[/URL]

So, what you're telling me, Spectre, is that the Wallace trade might be o.k.?

[runs and jumps behind the rocks.]

[Chef]

marc gasol is nothing special. he is a good defensive and very tough physical center in a league in where there are very few centers like him. in the 90's he would not have been anything special at all. but we are not in the 90's so he is a decent pickup but after they pay him this summer he will no longer be such a great roster spot. i would much rather have pau over him anyday.

[spectre]

So, what you're telling me, Spectre, is that the Wallace trade might be o.k.?

[runs and jumps behind the rocks.

LOL yeah...that's exactly what I was saying!

Since the trade even Space Jam reruns are banned from my house.

They got Marc on a rook deal for what...3 years while they were able to build around him? For the position they were in what they did was far superior than being a playoff team with no playoff victories every year paying brother Pau a fat paycheck. It gave them cap space and options...which they used to get Randolph, their pick back from WAS, etc.

We should hope like hell our trade turns out near as good as that one did over the next few years...which is probably how long it's going to take.

[Marvel]

Was it really?

The Pau Gasol trade revisited

I wouldn't attribute/link the Zach Randolph trade to the Gasol trade. It was more so taking advantage of an opportunity, than the Grizz FO using their genius to turn sand into gold.

[rsxnova]

Im not really sure why you guys are comparing the Wallace/Pau deals. We got cap relief and decent draft picks for a 29 year old forward that relies on athleticism. Of course i am taking into account that Wallace will probably have a shorter prime than a player like Pau. He is probably on the edge as is.

[Chef]

Im not really sure why you guys are comparing the Wallace/Pau deals. We got cap relief and decent draft picks for a 29 year old forward that relies on athleticism. Of course i am taking into account that Wallace will probably have a shorter prime than a player like Pau. He is probably on the edge as is.

we aren't. we are talking about the memphis gm chris wallace and the pau gasol trade. we were talking about the potential of NO trading CP3 and needing total ownership approval because it is a league owned team. i said a wallace-esque pau gasol type trade won't happen, as in NO will not be able to just give away cp3 for cap releif.

not about gerald wallace at all.

[spectre]

I wouldn't attribute/link the Zach Randolph trade to the Gasol trade. It was more so taking advantage of an opportunity, than the Grizz FO using their genius to turn sand into gold.

Sure you would...because with the flexibility the trade gave them they were able to get Randolph. Same reason why we can't judge the Portland trade until we see what Jordan does with our newfound flexibility & the picks.

DNB caught it...my points on Gasol is actually the opposite position of what I've maintained since the Portland trade. Gasol had much more value than Crash...but if what we got was a similar (but obviously lesser) package AND if Jordan can parlay it into something along the lines that Memphis did then it's not so bad after all.

Sorry to skew this to sorta off topic...but it is pointing to what Jordan could do with the new options that he has.