Interesting Amnesty Twist

[JGib23]

It appears that teams that are under the cap will have the chance to bid on amnesty cut players through a modified waiver system, the teams can bid on a portion of the players contract with the team that cut him responsible for the balance.

For example let's say the Hawks amnesty Marvin Williams, we can bid on his services, say for $3 million per year and if we are the high bidder, we get Marvin for $3m per season with the Hawks being responsible for the balance.

That makes things very interesting.

[docend24]

No, those 3M should be substracted what Hawks would owe him in this case. Still better system than the old one - no reason to investigate whether Dallas tried to persuade some team into waiveing someone using cash in the process. Getting portion of money (amoung of the higheest bid) back will motivate team using amnesty on somewhat useful players too i.e. Bobcats could be thinking not only about Diop but maybe about Maggette too. Thomas is out of question as with one amnesty clause use per year there is no hurry to decide on him (yet).

[JGib23]

No, those 3M should be substracted what Hawks would owe him in this case. Still better system than the old one - no reason to investigate whether Dallas tried to persuade some team into waiveing someone using cash in the process. Getting portion of money (amoung of the higheest bid) back will motivate team using amnesty on somewhat useful players too i.e. Bobcats could be thinking not only about Diop but maybe about Maggette too. Thomas is out of question as with one amnesty clause use per year there is no hurry to decide on him (yet).

We are saying the same thing. We pay $3m for Marvin Williams and the Hawks owe the balance is the same as 3m being subtracted from what the Hawks owe him.

There is only one amnesty for this CBA and it only counts for exisiting contracts that are already signed (you can use it in any year but, only 1 time). There is also a stretch provision that can be used but, only for new contracts but, those players contracts still count count against the cap but it's spread over twice the existing contract length plus one year. For example you have player x under contract for 2 years and 20 million, you can waive him and stretch his his cap hit over 5 years for 4 million per.

[docend24]

I heard one per year, I we'll wait and see what the final deal will look like. It wuld make more sense "your" way but that doesn't necessarily rule out the other way, does it?

[JGib23]

I heard one per year, I we'll wait and see what the final deal will look like. It wuld make more sense "your" way but that doesn't necessarily rule out the other way, does it?

Here's a good explanation.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...mMzI4&hl=en_US

[SWedd523]

14.

Amnesty

Each team permitted to waive 1 player prior to any season of the CBA
(only for contracts in place at the inception of the CBA) and have 100% of
the player’s salary removed from team salary for Cap and Tax purposes.

Salary of amnestied players included for purposes of calculating players’
agreed-upon share of BRI.

A modified waiver process will be utilized for players waived pursuant to
the Amnesty rule, under which teams with Room under the Cap can
submit competing offers to assume some but not all of the player’s
remaining contract. If a player’s contract is claimed in this manner, the
remaining portion of the player’s salary will continue to be paid by the
team that waived him.




Sounds like only 1 player can be waived, at any time. Not 1 player every year

[JGib23]

Anybody on board with bidding on Brandon Roy after he gets amnestied? I know his knees are a huge question mark but at say 3 or 4 million over the next 3 seasons I thinks it's worth the risk. Roy playing about 20 minutes/night in a back up role would be ideal and with his ball handling and passing ability he would be a nice compliment to Kemba aswell.

BRoy and Hendo would be a very solid SG rotation (Also relatively cheap)

[SWedd523]

No sir. Serves no purpose

[JGib23]

No sir. Serves no purpose

No offense but, Wow! At 3 or 4 million per, you don't think he would serve a purpose?

You do know that Matt Carroll is our back up SG and that Gerald Henderson is recovering from offseason surgery on his hip?

I can understand if you thought there was a better option at a cheap price but, to suggest that adding a solid back up sg who is a knee injury removed from being an all star serves no purpose on a team that lacks for talent as bad as ours.

What happens if Hendo misses a few games? Are you really comfortable with Matt Carroll playing significant minutes? or Kemba and DJ backcourt playing significant mintues together?

IMO, SG is by far our weakest position (more weak than Center because I think we can go with Biyombo or Tyrus at the 5 in a Pinch)

[SWedd523]

Okay so let's say he plays fantastic. We go from a 15 win team to a 20 win team? Is "3 or 4 million per" worth STILL being in the lottery? No. Now let's say he continues to be broken down. We just wasted "3 or 4 million per" for nothing.


Not worth it.