Chris Paul Trade Talks (update: New Clippers deal submitted)

[SWedd523]

where is all the outrage and veto threats over this deal. this is clearly not fair value for lamar odom?

The league doesn't own the Lakers or Dallas

[SWedd523]

All the hate for CP is laughable. Where has CP ever made public threats or public statements that would indicate he is an asshole? He showed up to training camp friday in good spirits, whereas Odom showed up late, and left early. Paul has never been anything but class in everything he does off the court. And no, I don't just love him because I'm a Wake fan, but because he is a legitimately good person. Some bigtime haters on this board.

Pretty sure he went to the NBPA and demanded to be traded by Friday or else they'd sue. But that's just me. All of this after saying "My heart is in New Orleans"

[Chef]

The league doesn't own the Lakers or Dallas

that is the point. that is why the writers and folks like me are just shaking our heads at this. just go ahead and contract them then.

[WFU4LIFE]

Pretty sure he went to the NBPA and demanded to be traded by Friday or else they'd sue. But that's just me. All of this after saying "My heart is in New Orleans"

He only did this after the league fucked him over worse than they have to any player ever. They vetoed the trade, leaving him in limbo. Of course he's going to take action to ensure that he doesn't just sit back and get fucked, and that the same doesn't happen to the Hornets organization.

[SWedd523]

How is he getting fucked? He's still getting paid the max for another year in New Orleans or wherever else he goes. He signed a contract. If he didn't want to play in New Orleans then he shouldn't have signed such a long extension. IT's as simple as that. Players give up their freedom to move whenever they sign long term deals.

Time for the players to learn they don't have ultimate power in the league. If he was the first, then it's too bad. He won't be the last.

[Scottley Crue]

the big reason why the writers are so against the veto is that the same writers asked stern and wrote about potential conflict of interest when the league took over the hornets (a team with a top 10 player and soon to be free agent) last year. this trade was a fair trade player-wise. i don't know if it would be the approach i would take if i were running NO (never position yourself to be a 6-8 seed with a team of highly paid vets) but many teams do it. cuban, the old paul allen, celtics, knicks etc are never afraid to take on a lot of money to make them marginally better.

the problem comes with league integrity. taking over the hornets was not supposed to be a conflict of interest, but now it is a huge liability to the perception that the league has troubles staying on the up and up.

It's certainly a tricky situation at best. I can't say that the questions of conflict of interest aren't valid because they are more than valid. I just think that the issue of losing a major attraction while adding on about $15-$20 million in salary are very valid reasons for a team owner to nix a trade. (Especially when you've got a group of 29 other guys footing that extra bill while also looking to sell it. That extra payroll doesn't exactly help.) It just so happens that the NBA owns this team, so yes, it looks bad. That's why I wish they'd put a hold on this until a new ownership group is in place for the Hornets. If that new group wants to do a deal like that, then so be it, it's that group's choice and not the league's (though, again, the league is the owner at the moment).

Now, I'm not naive enough to think that the NBA isn't sending a message here...driving a major talent away from a glamour team and almost making sure to not bow to the demands of said major talent. But the salary implications are a valid reason for nixing it to me, though there are much better ways to go about doing things than what the NBA is doing at the moment. That's where they need to clean it up.

[Chef]

if gordon goes to NO, i would immediately offer

diaw
dj
hendo
portland 2013 pick

for

okafor and gordon

[SWedd523]

I would trade anybody on our team for Eric Gordon. Dude is going to be the best SG in the league in 2 years.


And no, I'm not saying that because he's my favorite player



(thread title updated BTW)

[SWedd523]

Deal is apparently dead in the water because the league "keep asking for more and more"

[ohara831]

Not sure I like what the league is doing now. That is 2 fairly good deals, and quite fair, that got right to the end and then collapsed. If Stern is not careful, he's going to have more owners upset with him than he knows. Not a wise idea, even if he plans to retire soon.