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    Quote Originally Posted by DY_nasty View Post
    Kemba has won 1 preseason game and helped in one regular season game.

    DJ has been the only consistent clutch player the Bobcats have ever had.
    Is that really saying a lot? From 82games (10'-11') DJ's "clutch" eFG% is .48, his FG% is 42%. Not that impressive IMO.

    BTW, I don't think he's the most clutch player the Bobcats have ever had. How are you arriving at that?

    In a vacuum RIGHT NOW I'd probably choose DJ but only because Kemba's logged just the two games. We're not in a vacuum however...so I'll go with Kemba all day/every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spectre View Post

    BTW, I don't think he's the most clutch player the Bobcats have ever had. How are you arriving at that?
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    i was gonna ask the same question. my first inclination was felton. dude has swagger at the end of games and wanted the ball in his hands. least clutch starter i have seen had to be mek.

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    Felton wanted it in his hands. Not sure how clutch he actually was tho...
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    Quote Originally Posted by spectre View Post
    Is that really saying a lot? From 82games (10'-11') DJ's "clutch" eFG% is .48, his FG% is 42%. Not that impressive IMO.

    BTW, I don't think he's the most clutch player the Bobcats have ever had. How are you arriving at that?

    In a vacuum RIGHT NOW I'd probably choose DJ but only because Kemba's logged just the two games. We're not in a vacuum however...so I'll go with Kemba all day/every day.
    I'm with you on this, I'm not sure under what criteria DJ is the most clutch player for the 'Cats. I fully understand DJ's been in the league four years now and Kemba has a grand total of two games in, but I'm still taking Kemba 12 times out of 10. Kemba's work in college isn't unknown to those in the league...and I do believe it's respected as well.
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    You want the guy taking the shot to have confidence. DJ has confidence issues, Kemba is known for his confidence. Give me Kemba, albeit a young player.

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    DJ is playing great ball right now . Either DJ is planing on keeping his starting job or. is really helping his trade stock. Looking at him as just a asset we need to trade him when the right offer comes along. Because i don't think he signs with us next season .


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    Quote Originally Posted by spectre View Post
    Is that really saying a lot? From 82games (10'-11') DJ's "clutch" eFG% is .48, his FG% is 42%. Not that impressive IMO.

    BTW, I don't think he's the most clutch player the Bobcats have ever had. How are you arriving at that?

    In a vacuum RIGHT NOW I'd probably choose DJ but only because Kemba's logged just the two games. We're not in a vacuum however...so I'll go with Kemba all day/every day.
    Dude, you can also look at who's scored the most points in the final two minutes of close games since 2006 and you'll see Vince Carter right on top of the list.

    Gerald Wallace was never that offensive go-to guy late game, not consistently at least. Hero mode Felton wanted the ball - but that was a crap shoot. JAX hit big shots, but more than half the time the deficit was his fault to begin with. I'd prefer to forget JRich's time here if I could. DJ has iced more games than anyone else we ever had. Unlike any of the other guys listed, there was never a point when any Bobcats fan ever looked at a late game situation and said "oh, god - DJ has the ball. we're doomed". No, its been "DJ at line? this is money in the bank". That shot against Miami was easily the dumbest play he's ever made in a late game situation. However, that same play was all too common with JRich, Felton, Wallace, and especially Jackson.

    Kemba is nice but geez. I'm not about to forget every late game situation where DJ led a comeback (most of the time with no help) just because Kemba's got a great smile and whatnot.

    I'm starting to fall in with ballwhore. DJ just needs to move on to where he's actually appreciated. I expected a lot of Kemba love but wow...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef View Post
    i was gonna ask the same question. my first inclination was felton. dude has swagger at the end of games and wanted the ball in his hands. least clutch starter i have seen had to be mek.
    I have a hard time finding previous years on 82games but I did look at Felton's time in Denver this past season where I don't think he did very well (maybe the NY stretch is included?)...but his "clutch" stats were better than DJ's.

    ...and I'm not trying to take anything away from DJ. Not being "the most clutchiest" doesn't mean I'm afraid of him being out there and taking the last shot. I just think in our situation now and going forward Kemba should be out there.

    After all...isn't that what Kemba does?
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    This is what im saying DY. Are we alienating a potentially very very good player as a fan base?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DY_nasty View Post
    Dude, you can also look at who's scored the most points in the final two minutes of close games since 2006 and you'll see Vince Carter right on top of the list.

    Gerald Wallace was never that offensive go-to guy late game, not consistently at least. Hero mode Felton wanted the ball - but that was a crap shoot. JAX hit big shots, but more than half the time the deficit was his fault to begin with. I'd prefer to forget JRich's time here if I could. DJ has iced more games than anyone else we ever had. Unlike any of the other guys listed, there was never a point when any Bobcats fan ever looked at a late game situation and said "oh, god - DJ has the ball. we're doomed". No, its been "DJ at line? this is money in the bank". That shot against Miami was easily the dumbest play he's ever made in a late game situation. However, that same play was all too common with JRich, Felton, Wallace, and especially Jackson.

    Kemba is nice but geez. I'm not about to forget every late game situation where DJ led a comeback (most of the time with no help) just because Kemba's got a great smile and whatnot.

    I'm starting to fall in with ballwhore. DJ just needs to move on to where he's actually appreciated. I expected a lot of Kemba love but wow...
    Ah ok...you're going from memory. That's fine, I just didn't know where it was coming from.

    Again, I'm all about the future (wasn't that what we've been sold since the Cho hire?). It has nothing to do with hating on DJ...it's about the reality of our situation.
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