DJ or Kemba

[dav7z]

Lots of Kemba love still . With a game like he had last night im very surprized at thease post . To me Kemba is playing to fast rushing shots big time . He seems to have lost some comfidence in his abilitys on isos. Some of it could be playing garbage mins . And not starting may be a bigger adjustment we thought . Season is still young and i still belive the kid has the skills.

But i am getting concerned about Salis and how hes handling thease kids.

[adam187]

I'm trying to be optimistic. Kemba needs games like last night with Cleveland. Hopefully he'll learn from what happened and also use it as motivation. It looks like he tries to do too much on offense. Hopefully he can get the other guys a little bit more involved. He has the ability to get deep into the lane and also causes problems with the pick n roll because he can kill you either with the open jumper or driving ability - he needs to be able to hit the open man with the ball though when the defense plays him hard off those screens. Same with finding the open man when he gets into the lane and a big comes over to help defend (DJ seems to have this problem a lot too).

[spectre]

This is the post i'm referring to Spec. You said it took DJ 3 years to learn how to run an offense/team. Most of that time he was playing SG with Felton running point. If it took DJ 3 years to learn how to run a team, how on earth do we come to the conclusion that Kemba will manage to run a team in only a 3rd of that time - a year.

Right, but on the flip side couldn't we assume (ASS_U_ME ) that if we did to Kemba what we did to both Felton & DJ might it not take the same amount of time before Kemba starts to "get it" in terms of running a team?

As it is right now I have no assumptions that Kemba will be able to. I'm afraid that by staying with the status quo we'll have the exact same issues.

...and like I've been saying throughout; our rebuilding, DJ's RFA status, Kemba on a rook deal & the hype he's for some reason bringing screams to me that we need to go all in with the guy.

I wish we'd have done it with Felton and if he was out of our plans we should have done it with DJ. IMO we have to stop else we'll put yet another player back 3 years.

BTW Marvel, good to see you back. You've been missed.

[Chef]

Right, but on the flip side couldn't we assume (ASS_U_ME ) that if we did to Kemba what we did to both Felton & DJ might it not take the same amount of time before Kemba starts to "get it" in terms of running a team?

As it is right now I have no assumptions that Kemba will be able to. I'm afraid that by staying with the status quo we'll have the exact same issues.

...and like I've been saying throughout; our rebuilding, DJ's RFA status, Kemba on a rook deal & the hype he's for some reason bringing screams to me that we need to go all in with the guy.

I wish we'd have done it with Felton and if he was out of our plans we should have done it with DJ. IMO we have to stop else we'll put yet another player back 3 years.

BTW Marvel, good to see you back. You've been missed.

there is a big difference from a gentle coach like silas limited his minutes and playing him at multiple positions than larry brown skull fu_king you with his cold stare while beating your fragile rookie confidence to a bloody pulp.

[spectre]

I'm trying to be optimistic. Kemba needs games like last night with Cleveland. Hopefully he'll learn from what happened and also use it as motivation. It looks like he tries to do too much on offense. Hopefully he can get the other guys a little bit more involved. He has the ability to get deep into the lane and also causes problems with the pick n roll because he can kill you either with the open jumper or driving ability - he needs to be able to hit the open man with the ball though when the defense plays him hard off those screens. Same with finding the open man when he gets into the lane and a big comes over to help defend (DJ seems to have this problem a lot too).

It's hard not to analize the hell out of these first few games and I do it as well...but he's had no training camp to speak of and Silas' rotations have really been whacked. I also have to imagine it's a bigtime adjustment for him just coming in off the bench. Being as how we're expecting him to play the hardest position there is to learn in the NBA it's going to take time.

Heh...I remember not so long ago Felton looked like a top 5 PG after the start of a season or two playing with us. He's still a good PG IMO...but nowhere near as good as that.

[spectre]

there is a big difference from a gentle coach like silas limited his minutes and playing him at multiple positions than larry brown skull fu_king you with his cold stare while beating your fragile rookie confidence to a bloody pulp.

True...but Felton went thru it under "just play hard" Bernie Bickerstaff. Very similar results don't you think?

Besides...didn't DJ just give credit to LB the other night for his growing into a PG? I didn't personally hear it, but I coulda swore someone said it in the chat.

"What doesn't kill me just makes me stronger."

I dunno. All these guys are different. I'd just like to try something a little different, esp. given our situation.

[ballwhore]

You guys are quite the impatient bunch. You know DJ is going to be gone if for no other reasons because of salary it doesn't matter if he averages 25 & 15 and the Bocats win 30 plus games. He will be gone. Right now Kemba coming off of the bench gives the crowd anticipation anyway. Why killed that by starting him and delegating DJ to the bench and killing his value? There still is this thing called practice and the day Kemba starts kicking DJ aZZ in practice and showing he can run the team then you leave the coach with no choice but to start him. He knows one speed right now GO Fast. He'll get his turn soon enough and hopefully it's everything you ever dreamed of KEMBA the POINT GOD pun intended

[spectre]

You guys are quite the impatient bunch. You know DJ is going to be gone if for no other reasons because of salary it doesn't matter if he averages 25 & 15 and the Bocats win 30 plus games. He will be gone. Right now Kemba coming off of the bench gives the crowd anticipation anyway. Why killed that by starting him and delegating DJ to the bench and killing his value? There still is this thing called practice and the day Kemba starts kicking DJ aZZ in practice and showing he can run the team then you leave the coach with no choice but to start him. He knows one speed right now GO Fast. He'll get his turn soon enough and hopefully it's everything you ever dreamed of KEMBA the POINT GOD pun intended

I wouldn't bench DJ and start Kemba...given the status quo I'd just be giving Kemba more minutes. Hopefully I didn't say that anywhere because that's not where I'm at. I have been saying we should TRADE DJ as soon as possible because I agree he's gone because of money (and other things I've laid out).

And FWIW I have no confidence Kemba is going to be this Point God you speak of. He might never reach the level that DJ is right now. I do think we'll never know until we're in the exact situation 3 years time unless we give him the burn.

[ballwhore]

The whole handling of point guards by Charlotte is bullsh#t. How can you even establish any cohesion when you play with a different group every year. Hopefully, Kemba gets and keeps a solid base to play with and can only help.

[dav7z]

The whole handling of point guards by Charlotte is bullsh#t. How can you even establish any cohesion when you play with a different group every year. Hopefully, Kemba gets and keeps a solid base to play with and can only help.

First Felton then DJ now Kemba . Felton should have started and got that burn from the start . DJ all so . Both are starting points in this league and both slowed down in devolpment by management . DJ should have never been drafted with Felton just starting to come on . And Kemba gets drafted when DJ starts coming on . After trades last season one would have thought our only core was DJ and Hendo . All of us was sure we was drafting a s/f . Then management drafted Kemba to start another cycle at the point position. Both players isn't going to be core one is going to go . Kemba being the new big thing puts DJ on the back burner so DJ has to go . Right now we have no idea who will turn out the best of the three. Management really didn't give any enough time to devolope.