Deadline day thread

[Pepperz]

I don't think we're in any position to be handing out contracts to people coming of their Rookie contracts (Batum, Mayo). Look where it got us last time (Tyrus) that's how teams get in a financial mess only rookies i'd be interested in handing contract extensions are the ones on there rookie contracts that we have now as we'd probably have a better idea of where they are at. To be honest the whole idea of clearing cap space is so that we can turn it into assets. Right now or next year we have an opportunity to turn our cap space into some toxic contracts which will come packaged with some nice draft picks to aid our rebuilding our rookies will be due extensions basically right after those contracts expire so it's a win win

Tyrus was a different situation in that we traded a 1st rounder for him on 20 game rental. If we didnt resign him, manager would have taken a big him from the public. So they did what they had to do to save face like over paying for the likes of him. We never lose anything for the likes of Batum or Mayo. This also keeps us above the cap floor that we are supposed to meet. 85% if im correct. Nice draft picks are not picks in the twenties or late teens. The odds of picking up X player that you were looking for than you hope that X player turns out good are not very good odds to begin with. Drafting is not the only way to pick assets up.

By only going your route, you destory your cap space where if there is a quality guy for a great price in FA, you screw yourself. All your money is tied up in toxic player that you wont be able to move. You want to go Cleveland's route in how they are rebuilding. Money is not an issue for them. We have to look at our situation. We dont have the Richest owner in the game so we cant just spend money any which way we want to. But even Cleveland was smart about there trade.

They took on 10 mil to get a top 7 pick in the draft. You want to take on 15+ mil to get a late teens pick. So yeah, you are getting assets but at what cost.

[Chef]

Nice draft picks are not picks in the twenties or late teens. The odds of picking up X player that you were looking for than you hope that X player turns out good are not very good odds to begin with. Drafting is not the only way to pick assets up.

we turned portland's late teens, early 20's pick into bizmack. so acquiring extra picks can allow you many more chances to move up in a draft or gain extra future picks.

[Pepperz]

we turned portland's late teens, early 20's pick into bizmack. so acquiring extra picks can allow you many more chances to move up in a draft or gain extra future picks.

We also didnt take on any extra contracts in the Portland deal. Even in the Bizmack, we never took on any extra length in the deal. Cory and Jackson have same length in contracts. We are not spending anymore then we need to to acquire those picks. What other people are asking for is lets trade every single one of our expiring for a bunch of late 1st rounders at the expense of adding 20 mil of toxic assets.

[polarcat]

I really hope that Boston rumor comes to fruition as that could help us land in the Quincy Miller range. I know it's the Clippers' pick (not the Celtics), but if we bag that up with our 2nd round pick on draft night, move into the teens with our 2nd pick, and we could walk away with Davis and Miller out of this draft. :drool:

Kemba
Henderson
Miller
Davis
Biyombo

[superb1]

Jamal Crawford, Blazers
Potential suitors: Timberwolves, Bobcats
It's obvious that Crawford and Nate McMillan aren't working. Nobody really thought they would, but the lack of money available elsewhere for Crawford made a two-year deal with Portland for $10 million the only contract worth signing. Now, though, the Blazers are looking to cut their losses. Initially, a deal with Minnesota, which coveted Crawford initially, seemed like a no-brainer, with the Blazers re-patriating Luke Ridnour to Oregon. But Ricky Rubio's season-ending ACL tear Friday has made that potential deal much less likely, with the Wolves needing to hold onto their veteran point guard. So, now, according to a source, there's a chance Crawford winds up with the Bobcats in a potential deal for guard D.J. Augustin. Augustin has played just fine this season, but he's expendable now that Kemba Walker is there.

http://www.nba.com/2012/news/feature...ter/index.html

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

Tyrus was a different situation in that we traded a 1st rounder for him on 20 game rental. If we didnt resign him, manager would have taken a big him from the public. So they did what they had to do to save face like over paying for the likes of him. We never lose anything for the likes of Batum or Mayo. This also keeps us above the cap floor that we are supposed to meet. 85% if im correct. Nice draft picks are not picks in the twenties or late teens. The odds of picking up X player that you were looking for than you hope that X player turns out good are not very good odds to begin with. Drafting is not the only way to pick assets up.

By only going your route, you destory your cap space where if there is a quality guy for a great price in FA, you screw yourself. All your money is tied up in toxic player that you wont be able to move. You want to go Cleveland's route in how they are rebuilding. Money is not an issue for them. We have to look at our situation. We dont have the Richest owner in the game so we cant just spend money any which way we want to. But even Cleveland was smart about there trade.

They took on 10 mil to get a top 7 pick in the draft. You want to take on 15+ mil to get a late teens pick. So yeah, you are getting assets but at what cost.

How is Detroits pick a middling pick or any other of the picks I suggested, and Dan Gilbert isn't exactly that rich. He's richer than Jordan ye but he's no Paul Allen either or Cuban or Mikhail Prokhorov

[ohara831]

With TJ Ford retiring from Spurs, there is a reasonable chance to trade DJ to San Antonio for their 1st. Would be a late rounder, but still can get something decent for DJA rather than lose him for nothing.

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

With TJ Ford retiring from Spurs, there is a reasonable chance to trade DJ to San Antonio for their 1st. Would be a late rounder, but still can get something decent for DJA rather than lose him for nothing.

TJ Ford's retiring I used to love that guy, but if we fail to get anything better for DJ would like to pull the trigger on that one

[spectre]

With TJ Ford retiring from Spurs, there is a reasonable chance to trade DJ to San Antonio for their 1st. Would be a late rounder, but still can get something decent for DJA rather than lose him for nothing.

I like the idea...but I have no idea how to get the salaries to work short of us taking back multiple players

[MadBOBCATfanUK]

I like the idea...but I have no idea how to get the salaries to work short of us taking back multiple players

off the top of my head this was the only realistic one I could think of
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=85owops
although the Spurs love their draft picks they always draft well and I don't really think taking on Jefferson is worth probably the 27th pick
actually now I come to think of it T-time and Reggie Williams for Richard Jefferson and a draft pick