Kemba Walker

[adam187]

can any of our bigs pick and roll? all they seem to be able to do is pick and pop or pick and be biyombo.

not an excuse, just needs thinking about. the pick and rolls for this team are not very good (except when mullens is on fire maybe).

[Chef]

can any of our bigs pick and roll? all they seem to be able to do is pick and pop or pick and be biyombo.

not an excuse, just needs thinking about. the pick and rolls for this team are not very good (except when mullens is on fire maybe).

good point. love the pick and be biyombo line. the biggest part to the pick and roll is how the pg sets it up, negotiates it and uses the options it presents. watch cp3 or rondo they are excellent at pick and roll. also factor in casts which ours sucks, but still, kemba needs much work in the half court.

[spectre]

until he can negotiate a pick and roll and consistently run a half court offense this topic is not dead. your decree is on par with W's mission accomplished speech.

Hater.

Seriously tho...Felton was bashed for not being able to run the P&R until he left here and got hooked up with Amare. There is some semblence that can be run regardless tho and I'm perfectly fine with him pushing to improve all aspects.

Just like with PGs getting assists it's not all dependent on him (nor is he always the most important guy in the play). There's position/movement of the guy setting the pick/rolling just like the guy setting the pick to get that shooter free for that easy assist.

I question just how far he can go with our current coaching staff, but that's beside the point.

My main point (other than to pull a few chains...cuz that's what I do) was just to acknowledge the growth Kemba is experiencing in what legitimately was the biggest knock against him.

So show the man some love!!

[Mustachio]

until he can negotiate a pick and roll and consistently run a half court offense this topic is not dead. your decree is on par with W's mission accomplished speech.

until? you mean like if he gets a whole NBA season under his belt maybe? Dude we haven't even crossed the half way point of a regular NBA season yet. I never said he was the best point guard in the NBA or even that he doesn't still need to work on his game (who doesn't) . Just that he is absolutely a PG, he is the future of this team, and he's better than DJ at pretty much everything after under 40 NBA games.

The pick and roll is simple. He has the tools. Suggesting that he will never learn it is silly.

[SWedd523]

good point. love the pick and be biyombo line. the biggest part to the pick and roll is how the pg sets it up, negotiates it and uses the options it presents. watch cp3 or rondo they are excellent at pick and roll. also factor in casts which ours sucks, but still, kemba needs much work in the half court.

I disagree. As a PG growing up, I might be a bit biased, but the biggest part of the p&r is how the big man performs. He has to get a good wide base to prevent the defender from getting around. He has to be strong to keep the defender from pushing him into the PGs way. He has to either roll and present a good target for a bounce pass, lob, or step out for a jumper. He has to give the guard options.


If a big man sets a shitty screen, the entire p&r is ruined.
If a big man sets a good screen, it's almost impossible to stop.

[Chef]

So show the man some love!!

dude can ball. especially in the open court!

[Chef]

until? you mean like if he gets a whole NBA season under his belt maybe? Dude we haven't even crossed the half way point of a regular NBA season yet. I never said he was the best point guard in the NBA or even that he doesn't still need to work on his game (who doesn't) . Just that he is absolutely a PG, he is the future of this team, and he's better than DJ at pretty much everything after under 40 NBA games.

The pick and roll is simple. He has the tools. Suggesting that he will never learn it is silly.

and suggesting he is our future and better than DJ and most things after this many games isn't silly? i am simply saying he has yet to impress me as a point guard.

[Chef]

I disagree. As a PG growing up, I might be a bit biased, but the biggest part of the p&r is how the big man performs. He has to get a good wide base to prevent the defender from getting around. He has to be strong to keep the defender from pushing him into the PGs way. He has to either roll and present a good target for a bounce pass, lob, or step out for a jumper. He has to give the guard options.


If a big man sets a shitty screen, the entire p&r is ruined.
If a big man sets a good screen, it's almost impossible to stop.

or if the pg rushes it, doesn't set his man up or isn't able/ready/or can see the passes after it also ruins it. it is definitely a two man game, but i think a good pg is more valuable than the big man. cp3 wasn't as good without chandler but he made okafor a hell of lot more effective when oak was a terrible p&r player.

[SWedd523]

or if the pg rushes it, doesn't set his man up or isn't able/ready/or can see the passes after it also ruins it. it is definitely a two man game, but i think a good pg is more valuable than the big man. cp3 wasn't as good without chandler but he made okafor a hell of lot more effective when oak was a terrible p&r player.

He can only rush it or set his man up AFTER the big sets the screen.


What's the first part of the p&r? The PICK. Starts with the pick

[dnbman]

Perhaps it's not an either/or situation?

Anyway, I say trade Kemba. Trade DJ. If anybody else looks like they might can play pg, trade them too.

I just want five guys who block every shot so that we can win games with hockey scores.