Its not really a choice. They have to go to college (that rule that prevents high school students from entering the draft). South Park hit it right on the head.Originally Posted by Let's Go Cats 218
Good lord... I'm sick of this stupid argument. They CHOSE to go to college, and they know the rules. If they wanted to get paid, they would do what Brandon Jennings did. They get a free education (which means something if they stay), free room & board, free athletic gear, free trips, free exposure, free coaching, free access to weight rooms, gifts at the NCAA tournament/Bowl games, etc. What else do you want? If you're a player and you don't like it, there are some teams in Lithuania who would love to have you for a year.
Or they could take your second option and just get the fuck out this country if they want to pursue a career in basketball, right?
Its a multi-billion dollar industry that makes money off the backs of these players. Everybody gets a piece of the pie but those guys. A school will pull in MILLION of dollar because of these guys for in return they get a fraction of something back in the form of "Free Education".
Last edited by Pepperz; 03-23-2012 at 09:27 AM.
Wow, this thread sure has plummeted downhill! I still see some gems worth mentioning tho...
I know I do! Multiple times even.
We need more apocalypse threads! The world is ending at the end of the year and it's getting no mention. Personally I suspect the government.
BTW, MKG has disputed that he's "definitely coming out". Not coming out of the closet at this stage is probably a good idea IMO.
Hope Resurrected: "I think I can bring an attitude to a team as far as, ‘All right, no matter what, we are not losing this game'." - Kemba Walker
"Its okay to be bad; just so long as you're bad ass." - Keetch
except nobody wears the pacers jersey which he gets paid on. or jj reddick or adam morrison or julius hodge or any of the other college stars that sold millions of dollars worth of merchandise but not at the pro level. college was their chance and their peak.
and yes, they should get a cut of that. just because they are a kid doesn't mean they don't deserve to get paid on their merits. child actors get paid on theirs, right?
To get back on track... If he stays in college this year... NO BIGGIE....
We will get another player for this year.... WE WILL just struggle more and end up getting him next year...
All in all Bobcats are on the right track we will get 2 top 3 picks in the next 2 years so how can we not be positive about the future..
BELIEVE IN CHO GUYS!!
English Bobcat Fan
Says a lot coming from you. I appreciate it.
Tell me... what does that have ANYTHING to do going forward? Talk about some bass ackwards logic. Just because we've dropped the ball in the past on draft night doesn't mean we're destined to do it again, Mr. ApocalyptoTell me... How many times have we hit on our draft picks?
Not only is that laughable revisionist history, it begs the question of if they were so great, why didn't teams above us pick them? Oh wait, only the Bobcats pick busts. Right?.....Now, tell me even when great players were available, how many times we picked those "great players"? So far, we haven't. EVER.
Off the top of my head, one. Brandon Roy. Perhaps you'd like to share a few of those "plenty" of others?How many times have we been dissed by players? Plenty.
The only part of the truth that you have correct is that we have largely been a bad team throughout our short history. The shortcomings are attributed to a multitude of things from bad luck in the draft, to coaching demands, to bad trades. Your mistake is that you have this silly little idea in your head that those bad things happen BECAUSE we're the Bobcats, and that simply isn't the case.You're painting me as one extreme when I really represent the truth. I'm telling you, this fan base has been so deprived of a quality basketball team that when Biyombo has a double-double, 99% of the board creams their pants and claims he's the next Dennis Rodman or Dwight Howard, lol. It's pathetic. That's not a knock on BB either... It just shows how much we've sucked throughout our history. BB will be fine, but just as you claim I'm so short sighted and become a prisoner of the moment, the same can be said for everyone here - either positively or negatively. But, because I'm too realistic about things, and that doesn't line up with your sunshine and rainbows agenda, you take shots at me. It's getting old.
There have been 3 trades for bonafide stars in recent years. Chris Paul to the Clippers, Deron to the Nets, and Melo to the Knicks. You make it sound like stars are moved on a daily basis. Are the other 23 or so teams that couldn't land those three players terrible franchises? No.Now, tell me how many trades or signings we have pulled off for bonafide stars?
Actually no. Any chance those trades fell apart had way more to do with other teams simply being able to outbid us to get those players. The package the Nets had for Deron (for example) was much better than the one we could've come up with. It's the nature of the beast.Remember the Melo rumors? CP3? What was the reason we would hear as to why the trades fell apart for us? Because we are Charlotte, our market is too small, our franchise is poorly managed, etc.
I don't remember ever saying you should. I said you shouldn't run around acting like Chicken Little just because some "rumor" came out that Davis isn't 100% on entering the draft.Let So, again, tell me why I should want to get hyped up for whatever player we're rumored to get or target?
Did Luck ever say he refused to play for the Panthers? No. Maybe he wanted to stay in school and get his degree, since you know, it's the smart thing to do and as a student at Stanford, he's obviously a smart guy. Maybe Luck was nervous about the potential NFL lockout?Even the Panthers got dissed by a unanimous #1 selection before the draft and they have been successful at points in their history and they are extremely well respected in regards to ownership/management. We ended up with a far better player anyway (although Hurney has always hit on 1st rounders), but my point remains.
But who doesn't love a good conspiracy theory, right CarolinaKat?
I'm not saying that it is. I'm saying that you're being silly to automatically go to the absolute worst reasoning for a move just because we have a bad history. There are 30 teams in the league. Free Agents have all sorts of different reasons for picking where they go.So, why is it so far fetched to believe players, either NBA vets or college players entering the draft, wouldn't want to come here?
As for Draft picks, you DO know the deadline to declare for the draft is BEFORE the draft lottery right?
And as I'm sure you know, Mr. Apocalypto, there's a 75% chance of us not getting him. When they declare, they have no idea what the draft order will be.
But if I know one thing, is that Davis will pass up the guaranteed #1 selection and the millions of dollars and endorsements that come with it................. because there's a 25% chance the Bobcats might pick him.
No wonder guys like Beagle, amour, and the like don't come around much anymore.
They've been replaced by
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If Davis sucks we draft someone next year with a high pick, if they suck we draft another person with a high pick, we're bound to strike gold on someone.
so do we need to have a support group for Biyombo double double premature ejaculators? cause when he get's that 9th rebound, i just can't help myself sometimes.
as for the ncaas, definitely a very flawed system, and in my opinion, rife with corruption and hypocrisy. if you believe that a particular athlete is staying in college just because they're afraid where they'll end up, though, the system is actually helping a team like ours because they keep moving the date for declaration forward, trying to make it harder for kids who aren't sure if they're actually solid first rounders to leave school. only in america do you combine a multi-billion dollar sports industry with your higher education system. totally makes sense.
and, as for davis, i think he's more just like, leave me alone, i got a national title to win, we'll talk about how i'm gonna dominate the nba later. but in a humble way.
i think a big fear is that you strike bronze or silver instead and end up lowering your chances for getting that gold piece (hope my stretching your analogy makes sense). but i think you're right, we will get that person eventually, if only because we've bottomed out completely and i don't think we will improve as quickly as some people believe.
this is the dumbest thread ever. And you can argue all you want diddy... but this is defeatist and negative and kind of silly.
1. Never once were the Bobcats mentioned, or even hinted at.
2. Its not even close to a guarantee that the Bobcats will be the number one pick. you are saying that Davis hates the Bobcats soooo much that he is willing to forgo MILLIONS of dollars on the 25% chance we get number one over all. silly.
3. This franchise has been around for way less than a decade dude... If you think this is bad trying being a Pacers fan, or a Clippers fan, or basically anyone who isnt LA or Boston.
number 4. AND THIS IS A BIG ONE. Davis doesn't even say he isn't coming back. He says what any college player with a brain and still in the hunt for a ring would say. " I haven't decided."
Lets just delete this thread and pretend it didn't happen. With fans like this, who needs rivals.
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