The Official Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread

[DashGlobal]

Waiters has been promised by Toronto....

Moe imo will not go in the top 10.

[spectre]

Waiters has been promised by Toronto....

Moe imo will not go in the top 10.

ESPN.com's Chad Ford reported Thursday that buzz was circulating regarding a draft promise reportedly made to Syracuse guard Dion Waiters, naming the Blazers, Raptors and Suns as the suspects. The Oregonian's Jason Quick quickly followed up, saying Blazers director of college scouting Chad Buchanan said a few weeks ago he "never" gives players a promise. Raptors GM Brian Colangelo has since told Ford no promise was made to Waiters. By process of elimination, that would leave Phoenix.

but I guess Colangelo could be lying.

[Potato]

I think some of y'all are underrating MKG a bit, the McGuire comparison is a joke. Remember he played on a team where they had 6 players who ALL averaged around double digits. Had he been somewhere else at team not as good I bet he would have averaged 16.5 a game last season. His shot needs some work and it's never going to be great, but it can be average to above average and paired with his defense we have a really, really solid player. His work ethic is unreal and he seems to have potential to be a great leader.

[DashGlobal]

but I guess Colangelo could be lying.

Good find.

[Mustachio]

I think some of y'all are underrating MKG a bit, the McGuire comparison is a joke. Remember he played on a team where they had 6 players who ALL averaged around double digits. Had he been somewhere else at team not as good I bet he would have averaged 16.5 a game last season. His shot needs some work and it's never going to be great, but it can be average to above average and paired with his defense we have a really, really solid player. His work ethic is unreal and he seems to have potential to be a great leader.

I hear you. But thats a pretty big gamble to take at #2 for a guy who doesn't have great size, freak athleticism or any particular skill. You are basically gambling that he wasn't as good as he could be because he played on a great team with 5 first rounders. You are gambling that if you take him and put him on a team that isn't nearly as dominant (to say the least haha) that he will suddenly sprout as a player. I think its much more likely that he was as good as he was in college because of the level of talent around him. Essentially at UK, he was a great glue guy. They guy who made it all work. Which is fine, but #2 isn't for glue guys its for All-Stars. If you think the gamble of a transition from glue guy to starter, #1 option, all-star is probable than he may be worth #2. I'm glad I don't have to make the decision, but for me it would be an easy one.

[DashGlobal]

I hear you. But thats a pretty big gamble to take at #2 for a guy who doesn't have great size, freak athleticism or any particular skill. You are basically gambling that he wasn't as good as he could be because he played on a great team with 5 first rounders. You are gambling that if you take him and put him on a team that isn't nearly as dominant (to say the least haha) that he will suddenly sprout as a player. I think its much more likely that he was as good as he was in college because of the level of talent around him. Essentially at UK, he was a great glue guy. They guy who made it all work. Which is fine, but #2 isn't for glue guys its for All-Stars. If you think the gamble of a transition from glue guy to starter, #1 option, all-star is probable than he may be worth #2. I'm glad I don't have to make the decision, but for me it would be an easy one.

+1

two is to high for a glue guy needing work.

[iowabobcat]

Chad Ford is hearing that MJ isn't sold on MKG.

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2012/06/f...medium=twitter

[spectre]

I think its much more likely that he was as good as he was in college because of the level of talent around him.

If Davis was as much a difference maker for them on defense as I think he was...couldn't it be possible that MKG isn't really as good a perimeter defender as people are saying? Having a dominant defensive presence in the paint can make a lot of folks look good.

He might be all that, but having Davis (and he won't have anything like that here) certainly didn't hurt him.

[dnbman]

Assuming we keep the pick, the question is becoming less and less about how good MKG can be and more and more about if he'll be better than Robinson.

At this point, unless you think MKG is going to be a quality level better than Robinson, there's no reason to take as much of a chance on MKG. Another way of putting it is that Robinson seems to have every bit of upside of MKG, so why take the risk on MKG, especially since Robinson also brings great intangibles to the table?

That being said, we need to actively campaign for how great MKG is to build up his hype to give us more leverage to use that hype. I'm still fantasizing about trading down to get Robinson at 4 and another pick.

[WAM9]

In my mind, there is no chance that MKG will average as many or points or rebounds as Robinson.
if this is seriously the conversation, then Robinson is the pick.