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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelmatic View Post
    For me, I want PJ3 on this team somehow someway. If we were able to get the #10 pick in exchange for taking on Ariza (preferably) or Okafor's contract, that would be the ideal way to do it, keeping our #2 pick. I'm leaning towards Robinson with our # 2 pick if we stay there but would also like if we could pull off the trade for Portland's two lottery picks.

    I just think after AD this draft is full of quality talent but everyone has some question mark, which is why there is no clear cut choice at #2. I think PJ3 has the highest "potential" to be a superstar outside of AD. He has the tools/skills to be great which I know can be said of a lot of players that busted. I think his struggles stem a lot from a lack of confidence at times and listening to recent interviews I've seen, he seems to recognize that and is working on that. If our plan is to build slow through the draft and collect assets, it would seem ideal if we could get what most people feel is a solid/safe piece in Robinson and also get a potential star in the same draft. Especially if it doesn't cost us any picks. So what if he doesn't come in and live up to expectation immediately (which he very well could), since we plan to be drafting high next year anyway. And many people have already been mentioning shooting for Muhammad or Noel next year. Well, they are what PJ3 was. One of the most highly touted HS players who likely would have been a top 3 pick had he been able to come straight out of HS. It may take him a little time but I think the kid will be very good.
    Welcome to the forum. I think a lot of us here are looking for the same thing out of this draft. T-rob and a sf. Id personally like Harkless.


    Of the two guys you mentioned for 2013, im leaning towards Noel, looking forward to seeing him in college. Defensive freak of nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWedd523 View Post
    Your opinion is different than mine! You must be WRONG!
    Dang straight!

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    I know this has been covered but I just read again in 2 separate places that NO is willing to deal the #10 to get rid of Ariza or Okafor.

    I just think this would be the absolute best deal for us. Both players only have 2 years left so they would be considered expirings after this upcoming season.

    Keep the #2, draft Robinson and then get the BPA at #10. This still leaves us #31 and the addition of either Oak or Ariza.

    I absolutely love this deal!

    Also, if we owned #10, we might even be able to parley that into the #7 pick and get a 2nd "top target" in the draft.
    In Cho I Trust!

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    How about this:

    Chicago/Sacramento/Charlotte

    Charlotte out #2/Tyrus
    Charlotte in #5/Garcia/CJ Watson/Charlotte's #1 back

    Chicago out Watson/Deng/Charlotte future 1st
    Chicago in Evans

    Sacramento out #5/Evans/Garcia
    Sacramento in #2/Deng/Tyrus

    Gives us better depth at the 1 & 2, dumps Tyrus, gets our 1st back from Chicago for moving back 3 spots where one of the better prospects are still projected to fall. Garcia's last year of a 2 yr deal is a team option.

    Chicago fans have a 50 something page thread on RGM and they've all pretty much accepted a Deng for Evans swap. Giving our pick back would be difficult but they are getting a lot of space for the upcoming season (> 8 million) and in the future as Evans' new deal would be negotiated under the new CBA...should be lots lower. Didn't read the entire thread but a lot seem to feel they'd need to give more than just a simple swap, so this is in line with that.

    SAC takes on Tyrus but they're also getting the 1st pick of everyone outside Davis AND they're getting an all star calibre player at their greatest position of need.
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    Just got back from a 9-day hiatus in Mexico and wow is there a LOT that has happened since I left to catch up on. I agree 100% with WAM9 and others for getting that #10 from NO. Go Robinson at #2, Harkless at #10, and then BPA at 31 to add a shooter/6th man. I would love for Melo to fall into the mid 20's and then move up with our 31 to add Fab, but I think he will be gone by #20... big men with that skill set always do. As long as we don't trade the #2 for Gay or a max player like that, because we are still at least 2-3 years away from being where we want to be. I'd much rather keep my eye on Steph Curry down the line, and if healthy, bring him home to the QC at that point after adding another top-5 pick in next year's draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spectre View Post
    How about this:

    Chicago/Sacramento/Charlotte

    Charlotte out #2/Tyrus
    Charlotte in #5/Garcia/CJ Watson/Charlotte's #1 back

    Chicago out Watson/Deng/Charlotte future 1st
    Chicago in Evans

    Sacramento out #5/Evans/Garcia
    Sacramento in #2/Deng/Tyrus

    Gives us better depth at the 1 & 2, dumps Tyrus, gets our 1st back from Chicago for moving back 3 spots where one of the better prospects are still projected to fall. Garcia's last year of a 2 yr deal is a team option.

    Chicago fans have a 50 something page thread on RGM and they've all pretty much accepted a Deng for Evans swap. Giving our pick back would be difficult but they are getting a lot of space for the upcoming season (> 8 million) and in the future as Evans' new deal would be negotiated under the new CBA...should be lots lower. Didn't read the entire thread but a lot seem to feel they'd need to give more than just a simple swap, so this is in line with that.

    SAC takes on Tyrus but they're also getting the 1st pick of everyone outside Davis AND they're getting an all star calibre player at their greatest position of need.
    not even close for me. i'd rather have the #2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef View Post
    not even close for me. i'd rather have the #2
    Who are you that high on? Robinson?

    Davis
    MKG
    Beal
    Barnes
    Robinson

    Odds would be very good that we could get him anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spectre View Post
    Who are you that high on? Robinson?

    Davis
    MKG
    Beal
    Barnes
    Robinson

    Odds would be very good that we could get him anyway.
    I would definitely do it to get back the chicago pick if we could guarantee Robinson. Not likely though. He is the clear cut #2 its not even really close to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    I would definitely do it to get back the chicago pick if we could guarantee Robinson. Not likely though. He is the clear cut #2 its not even really close to me.
    He's my favorite but I don't think he's the clear cut #2 for all teams.

    Personally I don't like using an asset to dump Tyrus anyway. We're a team with little assets and with no hope of winning short term. If it was up to me I'd just ride his contract out.

    Like you tho I would really like our pick back.
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