Reply With QuoteThey have already officially made it known that the 10th pick is for sale if Okafor or Ariza contracts go with it.Originally Posted by DashGlobal
If we take Robinson, I'd definitely be leaning more towards an outside shooting threat at 10. PJ3 might be nice, but I'd love to see he and a couple of other guys go higher and a guy like Barnes fall to us there. Lamb would be fine too.
SOMEONE will pay for THIS!
They have already officially made it known that the 10th pick is for sale if Okafor or Ariza contracts go with it.
I didnt say it wasnt for sale. Hell even the 1st pick is for sale for the right pricetag (person)
I just think it is very unlikely they trade that pick.
We will see tho
It's not the same thing as saying the 1st pick is for sale for the right price.(which it's not)New orleans wants to free up cap room and has specifically made it known that if a team takes on the contract of okafor or ariza that they would part with the 10 pick.So you can't say there'e no way the'll trade the 10 pick, cause it's already on the table.And as far as taking a shooter with the 10 pick(lamb).I see what your saying but my point was that we need @ 3 and a 4 and this is a chance for us to legitimately fill both needs.We can buy a pick in the 20's for cash or take barton in the 2nd,or sign someone like novak to come off the bench in the off season.I don't think you waste a top 10 pick on that.I was basically wanting to know what you guys thought the best combination of sf and pf players we could get get would be if we had 2 and 10.I was thinking robinson and PJ3 or MKG and sullinger.I would really love it if we could aquire 10 and trade down for 14 and 16 from houston,which they might do cause they don't need alot more young players on their team.they've said as much.If we could do that and get robinson @ 2,marshall(if he slid a bit),or myers leonard @ 14, quincy miller @ 16, and barton or Machado @ 31 (depending on which player we got @ 14) i think we could fill alot of needs on this team and not mortgage the future.
Last edited by westbrook08; 06-09-2012 at 04:07 PM.
I like all of that and agree with your point about shooters. But if we think a guy like Barnes might be an elite scorer who can hit from outside, I'd like to take him, especially since PJ3 has question marks about how he'll actually contribute. (Though at 10, with a pick behind us, it would be worth a shot.) Trading down again for two picks could definitely be nice.
SOMEONE will pay for THIS!
I definitely wouldn't touch barnes.I've watched him play every single game @ carolina,about 10 of those were in person.And the one thing i can tell you from having seen him up close and persoal alot is that he's along way from being an effective full time starter in the nba,much less a star.He moves horribly without the ball,he has almost no handle,and the only time i ever really saw him get to the rack was against severely smaller players or if someone blew an assignment.His skill at the time in the nba would basically be coming in for situational defense(because he is a pretty good defender) or playing a steve novak role,where he comes in for a few minutes and knocks down 3's and goes back to the bench.I'm not saying he doesn't have potential if he works hard @ his craft,but he's nowhere near being worth a top 5 pick right now.And i hate saying it because i bleed tarheel blue. and i think PJ3 scared me off today too.I saw an interview with him and he seems like a complete moron.I wouldn't trust him to suddenly pick things up @ the pro level. Hoopsworld was saying today that quincy miller has looked pretty raw @ the combine and may have played his way out of the first round.Right now i'm really hoping that we get robinson,then aquire the 10 pick and lillard is still there(i think he's gonna be a flat out star),and then maybe get a shot for miller @ 31.If not i'd trade 31 and the portland pick to move back into the 1st round.I think outside of noel and muhammed that next years draft is gonna suck,so we should move that extra pick while it still has value.
Sign me up for
2nd - Robinson
14th - Leonard (im betting he is off the board here)
16th - Miller
31st - Jenkins or Wroten or Taylor
Fug yes!
For me, I want PJ3 on this team somehow someway. If we were able to get the #10 pick in exchange for taking on Ariza (preferably) or Okafor's contract, that would be the ideal way to do it, keeping our #2 pick. I'm leaning towards Robinson with our # 2 pick if we stay there but would also like if we could pull off the trade for Portland's two lottery picks.
I just think after AD this draft is full of quality talent but everyone has some question mark, which is why there is no clear cut choice at #2. I think PJ3 has the highest "potential" to be a superstar outside of AD. He has the tools/skills to be great which I know can be said of a lot of players that busted. I think his struggles stem a lot from a lack of confidence at times and listening to recent interviews I've seen, he seems to recognize that and is working on that. If our plan is to build slow through the draft and collect assets, it would seem ideal if we could get what most people feel is a solid/safe piece in Robinson and also get a potential star in the same draft. Especially if it doesn't cost us any picks. So what if he doesn't come in and live up to expectation immediately (which he very well could), since we plan to be drafting high next year anyway. And many people have already been mentioning shooting for Muhammad or Noel next year. Well, they are what PJ3 was. One of the most highly touted HS players who likely would have been a top 3 pick had he been able to come straight out of HS. It may take him a little time but I think the kid will be very good.
Im sorry but what skills does PJ3 have outside of being tall and athletic? The NBA is full of tall athletic players.
He does not have a good handle.
He does not have a good jumper.
He is not a scorer.
To sum it up he doesnt have the skills to play the SF position and is not really a PF. He is a SF/PF tweener.
Quincy Miller is a way better prospect with much more upside. Miller is 6'9 - 6'10 and is actually a SF with a good handle and jumpshot. Fairly athletic to. A poor mans Kevin Durant.
I mean come on....
Last edited by DashGlobal; 06-10-2012 at 01:43 AM.
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