Tell me about our asset management

[dnbman]

Where do you value acquiring talent versus freeing ourselves of bad obligations?

I know that nobody on here would trade the #2 to get rid of debt unless it was part of receiving a strong, young talent in return.

However, what would be some situations where we make trades that get rid of bad contracts and maybe get us some slightly lesser talent, if you think any such deal would be worth it?

I'm looking for reasonable deals, not "trade the #2 and Diop, Tyrus, and Carroll for the Cleveland's picks," which would be nigh impossible.

[superb1]

I think that a deal involving TT for someone with an expiring contract or an underrated player still on a rookie contract would fit us best. Besides Kemba and Bis, TT has the next longest contract and he has not produced enough to be included in our future. Everyone agrees the shredding his contract rather than amnestying him goes a long way.

For example trading TT to say a contender who expect to have cap space and need someone of TT's talents for a 1or 2 yr player who can't move off the bench due to an abundances to players in his position (i.e. Mullens), then throw in a draft pick which would be the real target.

[spectre]

Last year was a terrible thing to go thru and Tyrus was definitely part of it. I'm not a fan of low BBIQ players anyway but I think he's much better than what we saw this past season. I wouldn't dilute any assets right now to move him as I think a competent coach can get much more from him and (gasp!) actually get him into positive asset territory.

We're getting to the end of bad contracts, we're not ready to go after high end FAs and with the new CBA Jordan should stop bleeding money.

All about asset management...0% interest in dumping anyone unless it's a total nonbrainer.

[SWedd523]

We really only have one bad contract now, and we can use the amnesty if need be. I don't see the value in making a talent lopsided trade to free cap when there is a minimum in the first place and we're already bottom 5ish in salary.

We already went through the cap process, now we're full steam ahead in asset collection mode.

[spectre]

In regards to acquiring assets...

Saw this on the RGM Trade Board:

Charlotte/Orlando - Maggette for Hedo/19th. Salary is about a wash the upcoming season and we can buy out Hedo for 6 million the next season. I posted in that thread that I thought we needed a little more so another poster put this:

Char/Pho/Orl
Charlotte gets Turk, Frye, 13, and 19
Phoenix gets Diops expiring deal, Earl Clark, and 31.
Orlando gets Corey Maggettes expiring deal.

Charlotte gets a boost towards a rebuild and two respectable players. I would even argue Frye might do really well alongside Biyombo.

Phoenix and Orlando shed salary.

I like that revision a lot.

[Plowright]

I love that deal, but dont see why the Suns would do it. I think they would value their 13 pick more than sheding the salary of Frye

[westbrook08]

That's actually a deal i would do.Kudos for thinking outside of the box! Although i don't know why phoenix would want to give up their draft pick in a loaded draft and take back earl clark(who they already traded) just to save a few bucks.Plus frye has actually played well for them.I think they'd like to get rid of warrick alot more.But anyway,if we can make deals where we trade expiring contracts for draft pics and maybe take on an extra year of a contract to do it that's fine.But i wouldn't add anything long term or trade any of our young guys considering this is gonna the first full offseason for biz,kemba,mullens,williams and our draft picks.I think we need to actually see what we have first.Although,if we do drart robinson,i think it's inevitable that we amnesty tyrus.Your gonna want to bring a vet in to mentor t-rob(jamison maybe) and mullens has shown he can be a good stretch 4 off the bench.So i don't think we're gonna pay a guy to be 3rd or 4th string, and we're damn sure not gonna pay him 9 mil a year to try and play the 3.So if we can unload him in a trade that doesn't get us fleeced i would,but otherwise, we should amnesty him.

[dnbman]

We really only have one bad contract now, and we can use the amnesty if need be. I don't see the value in making a talent lopsided trade to free cap when there is a minimum in the first place and we're already bottom 5ish in salary.

We already went through the cap process, now we're full steam ahead in asset collection mode.

I tend to agree with this and Specter's comment. We're actually looking pretty good next season, save TT, assuming he doesn't live up to his contract.

[dnbman]

I like that revision a lot.

That seems like one of those deals that's got too many pieces for the teams to make it work, but it sure would be nice if it did!

Speaking of big trades, it seems like a few years ago there were rather frequent multi-team, multi-player trades, where several guys would change homes. I don't think I've seen that much in the last few years. Just an observation.

[DashGlobal]

Phoenix would have to be effing retarded to trade their 13th pick! Unless you give them a nice player in return.