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    i don't see the bobcats using the amnesty. amnesty from the owner's perspective only means saving on luxury tax. we aren't even close to a LC team so why amnesty a player that you will have to pay anyway? no one is going to sign TT for anything more than a couple million which means jordan would still be paying him 5+ per year. if i were jordan i would rather pay him 8 per year and have him play for me rather than 5 or 6 per year and have him play for someone else.

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    Chef, it would be the ability to sign also, but I don't think it affects us much given: a.) we're not likely to be very active with FAs this year and b.) next year we're in much better shape, possibly to sign two big FAs.

    Agree though: doesn't seem like Tyrus is going anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnbman View Post
    Chef, it would be the ability to sign also, but I don't think it affects us much given: a.) we're not likely to be very active with FAs this year and b.) next year we're in much better shape, possibly to sign two big FAs.

    Agree though: doesn't seem like Tyrus is going anywhere.
    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baske...und/54592578/1

    There are also decisions to be made in free agency.

    The 49-year-old Jordan vowed at the beginning of the season that the Bobcats would be active players in free agency this coming summer.

    As for the draft, the Bobcats are almost certain to take Kentucky's Anthony Davis with the No. 1 overall pick if they get it. But they're only guaranteed a 25 percent chance of getting it.
    There are in-house decisions as well.
    The Bobcats plan to build around Henderson and rookies Kemba Walker and Bismack Biyombo.
    But they could free up more money to spend in free agency by using the amnesty clause one of their existing big-ticket players. Maggette is due to make $10.9 million next season, while Tyrus Thomas will make $8 million and Gana Diop $7.4 million.
    Thomas is the most intriguing option.
    He underachieved this season and was benched midway through the season. But he's due $26 million over the next three seasons, which seems extravagant for a player who averaged just 5.6 points and 3.7 rebounds per game.
    Thomas said he wants to return to the Bobcats but added "That's a question you will have to ask the front office."
    I can't listen to it here, but if I remember correctly in Bonnell's vid talking to Higgins Rick asked him about FA and he seemed to waffle a little bit.

    Do you guys think we will actually try to bring in talent in FA, and for that matter was Jordan being truthful when he said he wasn't going for the 1st overall this past season?

    Is the FO telling the media one thing but are actually doing what they're accusing us of?

    IF we going along the lines of the OK model I'd guess they were and we WON'T amnesty anyone nor will be go after someone like Batum in FA.
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    If we go after anybody, I hope it's Hibbert. Give the man a max contract if need be and let him and Bismack dominate the next decade of big men. Hell they could even go after the cheaper option Brook Lopez and have near the same effect if he's healthy. (Yes, I know both are restricted)


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    Quote Originally Posted by spectre View Post
    Do you guys think we will actually try to bring in talent in FA, and for that matter was Jordan being truthful when he said he wasn't going for the 1st overall this past season?

    Is the FO telling the media one thing but are actually doing what they're accusing us of?

    IF we going along the lines of the OK model I'd guess they were and we WON'T amnesty anyone nor will be go after someone like Batum in FA.
    I'm calling shenanigans. Yeah, I'm sure they'll be active in the sense that they'll hunt for bargains and field a team. However, look at this list:
    http://www.hoopsworld.com/2012-nba-free-agents

    Who on that list is a reasonable option for us that would be worth spending a lot of cash on? I only see a few, and they all look like they'll resign or go elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SWedd523 View Post
    If we go after anybody, I hope it's Hibbert. Give the man a max contract if need be and let him and Bismack dominate the next decade of big men. Hell they could even go after the cheaper option Brook Lopez and have near the same effect if he's healthy. (Yes, I know both are restricted)
    didn't expect this from you swedd. i think giving hibbert a max deal would not be good at all. not going as far as suicide, but he is so not anywhere near max that the thought of him making 18-20million per year is sickening. but compared with overpaying lopez, give me the back to the basket hibbert any day.

    what would be your thoughts on team building (this draft and trades) to build around a max contract roy hibbert. i think i would rather have a t-rob at pf than biz next to hibbert. biz and hibbert would not be good spacing at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnbman View Post
    Chef, it would be the ability to sign also, but I don't think it affects us much given: a.) we're not likely to be very active with FAs this year and b.) next year we're in much better shape, possibly to sign two big FAs.

    Agree though: doesn't seem like Tyrus is going anywhere.
    yeah, i know, but i just don't see any big money FA's worth paying coming here to the point that tyrus's deal this year or next would get in the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef View Post
    didn't expect this from you swedd. i think giving hibbert a max deal would not be good at all. not going as far as suicide, but he is so not anywhere near max that the thought of him making 18-20million per year is sickening. but compared with overpaying lopez, give me the back to the basket hibbert any day.

    what would be your thoughts on team building (this draft and trades) to build around a max contract roy hibbert. i think i would rather have a t-rob at pf than biz next to hibbert. biz and hibbert would not be good spacing at all.
    Max deals aren't going to be worth that much anymore chef. Not sure what the new figures are, but it's much lower than Rudy Gay/Joe Johnson money.


    *If any of that was untrue, let me know


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    Quote Originally Posted by SWedd523 View Post
    Max deals aren't going to be worth that much anymore chef. Not sure what the new figures are, but it's much lower than Rudy Gay/Joe Johnson money.


    *If any of that was untrue, let me know
    As I recall from the CBA talks, the Max deals (in theory) will continue to grow like they have in the past, along with flat growth on the rookie contract scales. I may be wrong, I'll look for some support to back it up. Which puts the brunt of the salary decreases on the non-allstar veteran players (most of our roster). Which is why it is so important we don't make any stupid FA moves this summer. Agents and players won't understand the logic of them taking a 'pay cut' compared to similar talent in last year's free agent market. As long as teams with Cap space have ego-maniac GM's and Owners, the mediocre players will continue to get over paid....at least for this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWedd523 View Post
    Max deals aren't going to be worth that much anymore chef. Not sure what the new figures are, but it's much lower than Rudy Gay/Joe Johnson money.


    *If any of that was untrue, let me know
    didn't think of it in terms of new cap figure/cba, but % wise it will probably be the same ie 20 mil = 20% of total cap vs 13 mil = 20% of total cap. the more i think about it, he is a top 5 center and one of three back to the basket centers. i would just be very careful about what you plan to put around him because he isn't a franchise guy.

    make me a fake scenario of building around him. is it he and biz starting? trob and hibbert (i like alot better)? three scoring guards up top?


 

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