Noel is a better post defender because he's a more traditional big like a Tyson Chandler. Davis is a terrific all-around defender capable of switching on picks and still holding his own, like a Kevin Garnett.
However, i dont think id say he's the same level of athlete as Davis though, that's a bit off. Davis is an absolute freak of nature
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Just a thought, while rehabbing from the ACL tear theres a chance Noel gets to work on his shot, I doubt there has been a time in his life when he hasn't been training or having to do other things. This could potentially help his development for when he does comeback.
What about a higher ceiling Theo Ratliff:
Extremely rangy and athletic shotblockers with a limited offensive game. Also had the prerequisite high top fade.
The effect on the tournament on scouting of players
EVERY SPRING a handful of college hoopsters blast themselves into our consciousness by playing better than we expect and leading their teams to big wins in the Big Dance. Kemba Walker in 2011, Derrick Rose in 2008, Carmelo Anthony in 2003 -- these guys have made us put down our brackets, sit up and say, "Hey, I didn't know that guy was this good!"
Well, according to a 2012 study of how bosses hire high-value employees, we're not the only ones. NBA teams scout hundreds of players across the country, tracking their every move for months on end, and put dozens of prospects through extensive workouts. Yet when it comes to draft night, clubs routinely rely on the same measure the rest of the country uses: NBA GMs, it turns out, favor players who had surprising success in the postseason. And the even bigger shocker? They're right to do so.
Economists Casey Ichniowski of Columbia and Anne Preston of Haverford studied March Madness because they wanted to investigate whether employers often overweigh recent and vivid information when making decisions. Earlier research had shown that when we make judgments, we rely on data that's accessible -- the quickest and easiest stuff to gather -- even when we know it's important to be objective. Social scientists call this the "availability heuristic," and it explains why Americans wrongly believe tornadoes kill more people than asthma: A spectacular catastrophe is easier to recall, so we overestimate its likelihood.
It turns out that NBA teams operate this way too. GMs draft less than three months after NCAA championship games, and they still have the tournament's teams and athletes on their minds. Ichniowski and Preston looked at where college players were drafted from 1997 to 2010 and compared that to their positions in mock drafts just before the Dance. Then they compared those draft shifts, positive and negative, to how well the players' teams did in the tournament, given the clubs' seeding, and how far over (or under) their regular-season stats the players performed. The authors found, "A prospect who scores more points in [March Madness] games than ... expected ... moves up significantly in the NBA draft."
Walker, Rose and Anthony all got draft-day boosts. So did Utah's Michael Doleac; he went from ranking 24th in mock drafts to being drafted 12th in 1998. Conversely, Maurice Evans, who shot 4-for-16 in Texas' first-round loss in the 2001 tournament, is probably the biggest March flameout: He sank from 13th in the pre-Madness mock drafts to not getting drafted at all. On average, a player who scores four points per game above expectations on a team that wins one more game than projected in the tournament will boost his draft position by 4.7 slots, according to Ichniowski and Preston.
Now, here's the thing: Players who get March Madness bumps deserve them. Ichniowski and Preston also examined what happened to players after their draft days. They looked at whether the guys made the NBA; how many points and assists they had in their first year and over the course of their careers, in the regular season and the playoffs; and the chances that they became superstars (defined as making three or more All-Star teams). In every case, the group that got draft boosts from the NCAA tournament played better than those who didn't. If anything, teams undervalue March Madness as a predictor of future success and stardom.
I usually repeat "sample size, sample size, sample size" about as often as and in the same tone that Jan Brady wailed "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia," so I was shocked by these results. For most players, March Madness lasts only a game or two, yet it sends a signal powerful enough to last entire careers.
"I'm thinking of showing my sports class a clip of Michael Jordan beating the Cavaliers and asking if you could have ever predicted this, so that maybe you take MJ at No. 1 instead of No. 3," Ichniowski says. "Then I'd like to show his NCAA shot [winning the national championship for North Carolina] and move to the question of how much to weight March Madness performance." The answer: At least as much as NBA GMs do now. The NCAA tournament, with its pressure-packed contests featuring the best college players in the country in front of gigantic audiences, is truly a meaningful simulation of NBA conditions. Keep that in mind when Doug McDermott or Kelly Olynyk surprises you this month.
It depends on how you look at their athleticism. Davis has a little more lateral quickness which is what makes him such a great weak side shot blocker but Noel is a more explosive leaper not to take away anything from AD because he is an impressive athlete but Noel is just a little better getting off of the floor. They are equals in athleticism though. Both being a little bit better at one thing than the other is. They both are freaks of nature in that regard.
Anthony Davis isn't as good of an all around defender as Noel is though. Noel is only .3 blocks behind Anthony Davis's season average which isn't much at all but Noel actually showed superior hands in his ability to generate 2 steals along with his 4.4 blocks. And he has much better on ball shot blocking ability than Davis showed at Kentucky. Noel is slightly better on defense but vastly inferior to Davis on offense although Noel shows some promise as a finisher on the inside with some post improvement.
I'm curious as to how good Noel can become on offense. Looking at his shot and the way he releases the ball it's clear he has literally no shooting fundamentals or even the basic mechanics. He can learn them but how good can his shooting touch become? Scouts say he has extreme work ethic so I wonder how far that'll take him. If he can develop his jump shot then his potential becomes limitless.
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