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    getting a legit starting scoring C is a bigger need than SG. But if we miss out on Zeller McLemore would be the next best option.

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    I like Shabazz, but like McLemore better. Reading ESPN, nbadraft.net and others, they say Shabazz is like MKG. Great young talent, can get to the rim, but jumper needs help. McLemore on the other hand is compared to Ray Allen. Terrific jumper with 3 pt range. And the Cats have needed a SG like Ray Allen and we dont have one. Hendo getting better, but he will never be a Ray Allen like threat from the arch. We already have the original MKG at SF, so we dont need his clone at SG. We can however use a clone of Ray Allen at the SG. Dont get me wrong. I like Shabazz and wont cry if we get him. But I think McLemore is the better fit and will be the better pure SG we need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohara831 View Post
    I like Shabazz, but like McLemore better. Reading ESPN, nbadraft.net and others, they say Shabazz is like MKG. Great young talent, can get to the rim, but jumper needs help. McLemore on the other hand is compared to Ray Allen. Terrific jumper with 3 pt range. And the Cats have needed a SG like Ray Allen and we dont have one. Hendo getting better, but he will never be a Ray Allen like threat from the arch. We already have the original MKG at SF, so we dont need his clone at SG. We can however use a clone of Ray Allen at the SG. Dont get me wrong. I like Shabazz and wont cry if we get him. But I think McLemore is the better fit and will be the better pure SG we need.
    I wouldn't say shooting wise MKG and Shabazz are similar at all. Shabazz can flat score from anywhere on the floor. After tonight's game is averaging 19.6 PPG, 4.6 RPG, and .9 APG. He's shooting 50% from the floor and 48% from 3. He has also scored atleast 20 points in each of his last 4 games. Right now he would be my choice for the Bobcats to draft. If they could draft him and get Portland's pick or trade either Henderson or Sessions for a 1st they could get a big man with the second 1st. If Isaiah Austin stays where he is projected right now in the middle of the 1st and the Bobcats could get him and Shabazz earlier in the draft it would be a phenomenal draft in my opinon.

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    I'm not sold on Muhammad. And for one thing, I'm slightly concerned about his weight.

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    Zeller sucks. I'd take Noel all day over him.

    I like Shabazz most overall so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherDave View Post
    Zeller sucks. I'd take Noel all day over him.

    I like Shabazz most overall so far.
    Thank god someone said this. I dunno Zeller doesn't look too appealing to me, & he has t-Rex arms too...

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    With the way the game is changing from the days of dominant bigs to dominant guard play I believe you go with a player like Shabazz Muhammed. I saw someone post that he is similar to MKG but that is a terrible comparison. By comparison he is more like a very raw James Harden. The only similarity he has with MKG is his ability to drive to the lane and his strength. MKG is superior on defense to Shabazz although that goes without saying that Shabazz is good on defense, MKG is just great. He is also a good shooter from distance and an all around scorer. Getting a guy like him relieves pressure off of Kemba Walker to score so he can truly develop as a point guard and it relieves pressure off of MKG to score as well so he can actually play his game and not have to worry about trying so hard to help carry the team on the offensive end which allows him to develop his offensive game fully. Because you really want MKG aggressive on D and running the break. And right now the Bobcats lead the league in shot clock violations so they clearly need someone else other than Kemba to put the ball in the basket. Besides bigs normally take 3-4 years to blossom in the NBA. Besides as we saw with OKC and Miami you can do extremely well without a dominant big. But the best big available would be Alex Len of Maryland, not Cody Zeller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wi11iWii View Post
    With the way the game is changing from the days of dominant bigs to dominant guard play I believe you go with a player like Shabazz Muhammed. I saw someone post that he is similar to MKG but that is a terrible comparison. By comparison he is more like a very raw James Harden. The only similarity he has with MKG is his ability to drive to the lane and his strength. MKG is superior on defense to Shabazz although Shabazz is actually a good shooter from distance and an all around scorer. Getting a guy like him relieves pressure off of Kemba Walker to score so he can truly develop as a point guard and it relieves pressure off of MKG to score as well so he can actually play his game and not have to worry about trying so hard to help carry the team on the offensive end which allows him to develop his offensive game fully. Because you really want MKG aggressive on D and running the break. As we saw with OKC you can do extremely well without a dominant big. But the best big available would be Alex Len of Maryland, not Cody Zeller.
    It really is a bad comparison I see Shabazz kinda looking like more of a D Wade than a MKG..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wi11iWii View Post
    With the way the game is changing from the days of dominant bigs to dominant guard play I believe you go with a player like Shabazz Muhammed. I saw someone post that he is similar to MKG but that is a terrible comparison. By comparison he is more like a very raw James Harden. The only similarity he has with MKG is his ability to drive to the lane and his strength. MKG is superior on defense to Shabazz although that goes without saying that Shabazz is good on defense, MKG is just great. He is also a good shooter from distance and an all around scorer. Getting a guy like him relieves pressure off of Kemba Walker to score so he can truly develop as a point guard and it relieves pressure off of MKG to score as well so he can actually play his game and not have to worry about trying so hard to help carry the team on the offensive end which allows him to develop his offensive game fully. Because you really want MKG aggressive on D and running the break. And right now the Bobcats lead the league in shot clock violations so they clearly need someone else other than Kemba to put the ball in the basket. Besides bigs normally take 3-4 years to blossom in the NBA. Besides as we saw with OKC and Miami you can do extremely well without a dominant big. But the best big available would be Alex Len of Maryland, not Cody Zeller.
    We need a quality big. If Shabazz is a home-run prospect, by all means..let's go for it...but if we're looking at a rookie OJ Mayo vs a rookie Brook Lopez...gotta go with the Brook (both have similar career PERs). We need some offense from our front-court with some physicality and rebounding to boot. Pacers, Gizzles, Timberwolves...all small market teams who built contenders with an tough, physical, rebounding, and scoring front-courts and no superstars like Durant. The Heat are the lone small-ball champions (after 9 years of the new rules) which I don't consider a legit sample...they have LeBron and their shit rebounding is going to catch up to them before this season's end.

    I also have a disposition towards old-school, blue collar teams like the three small market teams I listed. They took a path that they have proven is successful in a super-star's absence; I believe Charlotte's biggest Hornet/Bobcat followers appreciate the tough/scrappy mentality the most...let's not follow this pussy small-ball fad...who knows if we'll end up with the offensive ammunition to pull it off.

    I say this respectfully, I believe your approach is a choice, not a necessity. I don't coach basketball, but if I had indesputable proof we could win both ways...and our front-office, out of preference, wanted small-ball, I would stop watching.
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    Yep I would rather draft a big, our guard play is okay but we've got like the worst front court in the league. Seeing as this is a weak draft anyway the best prospects are mostly bigs.


 

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