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    It's humorous as a non-college follower to watch guys sit here and argue against a pick in a draft where it was long decided that there wasn't much if any separation between 2-5. It's hard not to fall in love with a prospect and I had to fight hard not to fall in love with TRob. At the end of the day however most of us agree we brought in a guy who should be considered well above us all in evaluating what the best pick should be. He's done the research, ran it thru his own database which may well be the most advanced program that evaluates players in the NBA and he's watched these guys personally.

    Embrace the guy. As a fan of the team it's in everyone's best interest that he succeed and we need to get behind that. Arguing about it now is like beating a dead dog lying in the ditch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherDave View Post
    The process is fucked, we officially suck at drafting players. Rolling out of this 7 win season with MKG and Jeff Taylor is just fail, no matter how you slice it. It's so easy to get good wings in the Nba, so easy that we arguably got one more NBA-ready than MKG with our 2nd round pick.
    So after a 7-win season and with the #2 selection in this year's NBA Draft, you would've selected......? Look, I was a TRob fan up until David Stern walked up to the podium Thursday night, but the truth is that MKG, Robinson and Beal were 2A,2B, & 2C options for our pick. Robinson would've looked great on our squad, but he was just as equal as MKG and outside of the hitch in his jumper, I haven't found a lot of negative from what GM's around the league had to say about the kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spectre View Post
    Didn't he have us going with Robinson til the end? If he didn't know that then how would he know about any disagreement?

    There were no rumors whatsoever about us & MKG so I find it hard to believe this would suddenly get out.
    The other point to consider is that Chad Ford is probably covering his arse by essentially saying: 'I was partially right about T-Rob being their pick but then MJ came along and we all know his track record. He should have gone with T-Rob just like I said.'

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    Back to the original question ... in my opinion yes. They should have traded down and picked two good prospects rather than one who, to my mind, didn't separate himself from the pack.

    I can therefore only assume that Cho disagrees and thinks he did separate himself from the pack and was thus worth the second pick.

    I think it's fair to say Cho knows more than I do about MKG, the other prospects and the game in general.

    So I support the pick, but maintain my right to be sceptical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polarcat View Post
    So after a 7-win season and with the #2 selection in this year's NBA Draft, you would've selected......? Look, I was a TRob fan up until David Stern walked up to the podium Thursday night, but the truth is that MKG, Robinson and Beal were 2A,2B, & 2C options for our pick. Robinson would've looked great on our squad, but he was just as equal as MKG and outside of the hitch in his jumper, I haven't found a lot of negative from what GM's around the league had to say about the kid.
    I would have taken any of our 5 legit offers to trade down for multiples. No point in drafting one of 2A, 2B, 2C when the draft is 2A-T. Houston's draft >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>our draft and it isn't even close, for example.

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    B/c we can draft a player as productive as MKG in any draft from 5-15. We fell in love with the media darling when we could have just as easily traded down and gotten Harkless which would have been much better value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrotherDave View Post
    B/c we can draft a player as productive as MKG in any draft from 5-15. We fell in love with the media darling when we could have just as easily traded down and gotten Harkless which would have been much better value.
    How can you possibly know what an 18 year old kid's production is going to be? Again, we have Harkless's coach on our staff. I'm sure they know more about both of those guys than either of us do.

    His projections are a perennial all-defensive type player who is great in transition and finishing with the ball. That alone is not easily found in the 5-15 range. If he adds a good jumper, which many people believe will happen, that easily puts him into the top 5 category.

    He may only be a mediocre player for his career. However, I don't think you can justify a guy who was regarded as one of the best players in the nation since he was a junior is only a typical mid-low lottery pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kitch0202 View Post
    Back to the original question ... in my opinion yes. They should have traded down and picked two good prospects rather than one who, to my mind, didn't separate himself from the pack.

    I can therefore only assume that Cho disagrees and thinks he did separate himself from the pack and was thus worth the second pick.

    I think it's fair to say Cho knows more than I do about MKG, the other prospects and the game in general.

    So I support the pick, but maintain my right to be sceptical.
    A very reasonable position.
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    Man all I have to say is Emeka Okafor was the rookie of the year over Dwight Howard. Okafor was more NBA ready that year. See where that got us? Lol, I wanted T-Rob or Barnes myself but I'm going to support MKG and Taylor because I love the team. Crying over spilled milk at this point is getting old as hell.
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    I don't think Cho let the media influence the MKG pick at all. I know the "He's a winner. He works hard." narrative is the popular (lazy) story to push for ESPN, The Observer, etc; but I think it minimizes his physical talent/production on the court when they do, especially on the defensive end, where I think he can become elite. His jumper is erratic, to say the least, but at 18 I think it's something he has the time to develop consistency with. No one should expect him to shoulder the load on offense this year, but a guy who's that aggressive in transition and around the rim will find ways to score for you, or create scoring opportunities for his teammates.


 

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