Anyone have Makhtar N'Diaye's number?
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I fully expect Taylor to become the starting SG, maybe not game 1, but unless Henderson improves or Gordon sudeenly becomes a lot more defensive-minded, Taylor will be there.
Nice problem to have. Gordon will likely see some PT at PG too, and Taylor at SF. Having players who can handle multiple positions is a VERY good thing...
wow im seriously starting to think that ya dont watch any nba games. its not even debatable , henderson is clearly going to start,and is a potential all-star caliber player. ben gordon is nothing at best but a good 6th man and a scoring punch who gives our roster flexibility.gordon couldn't start over hamilton or stuckey because he's a tweener(have the size of a point but skill set of a 2-guard) if guard was a concern we would drafted beal who was uanimously choosed by every expert as the 2nd best prospect and cant miss franchise player,but management felt that gerald was our man. this ISN'T 2k everybody ,im starting to think ppl based him off 2k ratings or something because im seeing that he doesn't have handle(false),and the worst one of all he doesn't have a jump shot. you don't score 15 points off of dunks every game(common sense).he's a guard who shot 46% this year(top 5 amongst 2-guards)and that was behind d-wade and james harden. having a 3 pointer doesn't define a scorers game ,statically d-wade and lebron had their best years because they lowered their 3 point attempts significantly. i know he's not lebron or wade but the point i was making was their scorers and didn't rely on the 3-ball to expand their game. there is almost 10 different ways to score with out shooting a 3-pointer and henderson can score about 7 ways. hendo can pull-up , come off screens,transition, score off contact,play above the rim,create off the dribble basically ya get it . what solidifies him as the starter(or potential star) is that he is a 2 way player,something gordon is not. hendo is one of the most aggressive defenders in the league and challenges every shot ,he even is a decent weak-side shot blocker.hendo also is an above-average rebounder for his height and position ,something gordon cant do.all in all gordon is a situational player like most tweeners and hendo is a starter like most 2-way players.also, stop with taylor stuff, at best he's a arron affalo clone with a 40 inch vertical. taylor may have the worst ball-handle out of all the wing players and he can't create worth s#*t. of course you have the occasional pull-jumper but thats about it. taylor is truly an sf who may just become a spot up shooter who can play good d but his lack of scoring moves will keep him at sf and summer lg's are full of other draft picks and d-league talent so don't get to happy
Last edited by gm in training; 07-15-2012 at 03:33 PM.
Scrub, all star...I'm so confused!
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I don't think there's much doubt right now that Henderson is the starter, unless Gordon really shows him up in pre-season. Taylor may one day become a starting 2, but I doubt it happens in the next two seasons. The most significant thing Taylor does for a situation is make Gordon expendable, as Taylor could give us the three point shooting that we desired in Gordon but back up the 2 and 3. I see it as Hendo and MKG as a future 2 and 3, barring a significant upgrade at the 2, and Taylor being a great bench player at both positions. Gordon provides short term stability, but I don't think he's in the picture for long.
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Between the two listed by OP: Junior.
My pick? Like I've mentioned a couple times on the board already, JT is my man! He will push Junior hard. Just watch.
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1) Henderson is not going to be a all-star. Even in his best days he is a fringe 20ppg scorer.
2) When people say he doesn't have a jumpshot, they mean completely. Consistency paired with range. Henderson has a semi-consistent mid-range game but lacks the ability to make 3's.
3) His handle is nothing great. I'd call it good enough to get by. Enough to pass.
4) LeBron James and D-Wade aren't classified as scorers. Of course, they score 20+ ppg, but they aren't scorers. It is common sense to lower your 3 point attempts if you aren't consistent in making them, in which neither one of them are. They are 2 sides of the same coin when because they both get to the rim but finish differently. Hendo doesn't have the handle or craftiness to finish at the rim like D-Wade and he doesn't have the pure strength to finish at the rim like LeBron.
5) Saying Hendo is at the top of the entire LEAGUE in defensive aggressiveness is a stretch. He's a good defender, but there's many you could put above him
6) Hendo's spot is not carved in stone. Jeff Taylor can definitely be the starting SG on this team.
a) Taylor's handle isn't what you're making it out to be. He takes the simpler path to getting his own shot, which he showed tonight against Cleveland. A pump fake off the catch and then a couple dribbles by the defender. Or maybe a couple dribbles to a quick pull up. Or maybe the fadeaway. Not to mention he can knock down the 3 ball very well.
b) He's still got tons more to develop. Hendo can still develop some, but his game may not evolve much more. I don't see why you're so high on him. Yeah, he's good. But he's not irreplaceable.
On this team Gerald Henderson should play the same role that Thabo Sefolosha plays for Oklahoma City. He needs to focus on being an excellent permiter defender and hustling after rebounds, loose balls, and just being an opportunist. If he can be a shut-down defender, grab some rebounds, and score 12-15 points per game I would be happy with him. Let Gordon come off the bench and hopefully be a high volume scorer.
I think Gerald is being forgotten a bit here. Everyone loves the new, shiny thing, and Taylor is awesome value for a 2nd round pick. And he might be a starter at some point. But let's not act like Gerald is a role player. I think Gerald's ceiling is a #3 player in a Big 3 type role. He should he could be a volume scorer towards the end of last year, and started to show some leadership traits as well. Taylor has some good skills as well, but why does it have to be one over the other? Gerald has earned the right to be one of this team's leaders, and Jeff gives us some great depth off the bench, something I don't think we've ever had. Everyone doesn't have to be a starter to be a valuable piece, and the best reference I love to make is Dell Curry. We've never had one of those, and with Gordon and Taylor, we might have some firepower now once the starters need a break.