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    Quote Originally Posted by tamburello View Post
    Let's calculate the situation together, then?

    2012-13 guaranteed salaries:
    Gordon, 12.4 mil
    TT, 8 mil
    Diop, 7.372 mil
    MKG, 4.602 mil
    Carroll, 3.5 mil
    Hendo, 3.101 mil
    Biyombo, 2.923 mil
    Reggie Williams, 2.612 mil
    Kemba, 2.462 mil
    BJ Mullens, 2.253 mil
    These 10 guaranteed players bring our total to $ 49.228.129

    Now, add two newcomers, Ramon Sessions for assumed $ 5 million, and Haywood for assumed $2.05 million, the total reaches $ 56.278 milion. We still have to add Derrick Brown's cap hold to that sum, which is $ 1.085 million, so we end up with a pretty much eaten cap space. Also Jeffery Taylor would probably be signed for minimum.

    What do we have other than minimums now? What I understand from the new CBA, we have already used our non-tax payer MLE with Ramon Sessions, so all we have is bi-annual exception, which is $1.957mil and for two years. Thus, we can say goodbye to Landry, Randolph and all the other major PF targets. In another thread, I suggested Kenyon Martin for up to $3 million, but I noticed my mistake, sorry for that.

    CBA gurus, please correct me if I'm wrong at something.
    Thanks Tamb , The way i see it is we have only a few choices , Trade one of our wings like R Williams ,Anemsty TT and sign Humpries whitch im not a fan of doing . I would rather have that money for a max free agent next season. Sign a vet minium contract . Or resign DJ White for 1 year and UPS two a one year . If we don't use the Amnesty we will have like 20 milion to use of the free agent market . Just saying


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    Diop....Gone....Good.../thread
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    Kind of an irrellevant point Tam but we used pure space to sign Sessions, not the MLE. A team starting out below the cap = or greater to the MLE doesn't get it.

    Basically we're right at the cap with only the vet min to add any players. If nothing else we have to amnesty Gana just for some flexibility.

    Edit: As Dav mentioned we do have other avenues, specifically trade. Assuming however that our "assets" that we'd be willing to get rid of have little value I don't know how feasible trading really is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spectre View Post
    Kind of an irrellevant point Tam but we used pure space to sign Sessions, not the MLE. A team starting out below the cap = or greater to the MLE doesn't get it.
    Until today, I was exactly thinking the same way. However, something that I have just read, made me think otherwise.

    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q26

    If a team is below the cap, then their Disabled Player, Bi-Annual, Mid-Level (either the Taxpayer or Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level, whichever applies to the team) and/or trade exceptions are added to their team salary, and the league treats the team as though they are over the cap
    The way I see it, we mention the same things, but in different perspectives.

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    From the same link:

    So being under the cap does not necessarily mean a team has room to sign free agents. For example, assume the cap is $58 million, and a team has $51.5 million committed to salaries. They also have a Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception for $5 million and a trade exception for $5.5 million. Even though their salaries put them $6.5 million under the cap, their exceptions also count toward their team salary, increasing their total to $62 million, or $4 million over the cap. So the team actually has no cap room to sign free agents, and instead must use its exceptions to sign players.

    Teams have the option to renounce their exceptions in order to reclaim their cap room. So in the example above, if the team renounced their Traded Player and Mid-Level exceptions, then the $10.5 million is taken off their team salary, which then totals $51.5 million, leaving them with $6.5 million of cap room which then can be used to sign free agent(s).
    Don't you figure we renounced the MLE (and other exceptions) in order to use the available space? If we didn't, wouldn't amnestying anyone put us in the situation where we've used the MLE and then went back to being under the cap which we would then try to use as free space?

    I would think claiming the MLE would go against amnestying in order to pick up new players.
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    You are right, I simply could not figure it out. I probably got somehow confused by the crowded words and expressions there. Sorry.

    That means we only have bi-annual exception then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamburello View Post
    You are right, I simply could not figure it out. I probably got somehow confused by the crowded words and expressions there. Sorry.

    That means we only have bi-annual exception then.
    One of the times I'd rather not be right because without the above I'm right with your way of thinking.
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    Guys can we not sign DJ White and UPS contracts . Without any cap concerns at all??


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    Going off Tam's #s we should be around 56.3 million give or take...leaving approx. 1.7 million til the limit. That would allow us to fit UPS in there but no one else.

    You don't really want White back do you? That boy did about the unthinkable; make Tyrus look like he had a decent BBIQ.

    Bet he wishes he'd have taken our 4 per offer. On the flip I'm extremely glad he didn't.
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    I say amnesty Diop, he is going to be payed 7million this season to not play as it is, might as well go out and use his cap space to sign a decent PF who can contribute this season. The fans need a decent team to cheer for this season, something has got to start building in this city basketball wise, only 1 winning season in franchise history, the time to start picking up some wins is now!


 

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