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    BG could play point for stretches but I doubt he fits Dunlaps wants as far as his press and fast breaking. I'd only expect to see it if Sessions or Kemba got hurt

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    BG can play sporadic stretches at PG, and he's a willing passer that will draw some attention from opposing defenses because of his scoring prowess, but you don't want to depend on him dribbling too much. For those who haven't followed him much, he has a bad habit of losing control of the ball sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dav7z View Post
    Hell may as well put this in a very screwed up thread, Thanks , Spectre and Beagle ,Both great members .
    Back to my question ? Does Gordon have a good enough handle to play some at point ? I noticed last night he had 4 assist and shot just under 50% scoring 21 points . At the same token hes very small defending the S/G position . Hendo shot 50% off 10 shots and is much bigger, and better on the defencive side of the ball . I guess my Question is can those two play in the back court toghter at the same time? With out Walker or Sessions playing the point?
    And could they be productive toghter?
    I definitely think that's an option for us in small doses. Gordon isn't a PG (Bulls tried forcing that but it just didn't work out) but he can find guys and he's a big threat. He's always going to look for his first; if you thought Kemba forced up some shots out of frustration last season Ben would be that X 10. He's also a subpar defender and our bigs just aren't there yet to cover enough for him..

    I'm curious myself to see who'll be the better defender this year between him and Sessions.
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    Gordon isn't a passer and is a subpar (for his position) ball handler. I wouldn't want him running PG unless Kemba and Sessions were fouled out and MKG was on the bench.

    That said, it's really starting to look like we're going to need him in the starting unit. I would much prefer to bring him off the bench for a spark, but we simply don't have any scoring in that first unit outside of Mully and I fear digging ourselves a hole to start off every game is too much of a burden for the bench to overcome.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SWedd523 View Post
    That said, it's really starting to look like we're going to need him in the starting unit. I would much prefer to bring him off the bench for a spark, but we simply don't have any scoring in that first unit outside of Mully and I fear digging ourselves a hole to start off every game is too much of a burden for the bench to overcome.
    We'd love to get the youngsters the start, but there's no shame in starting Gordon. He's the highest paid player, has the best scoring resume, and has the most experience. As long as he plays within the team, I don't see any real problems with him starting. If Hendo needs any reassurance, he can look at Harden in OKC for proof that quality young talent doesn't need to start.
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    so far this whole preseason gerald's been shooting very well and his assist numbers been good ,but im scared that he may start taking to many 3's. hendo's game just isn't suitable for taking at least more than 2 three pointer attempts,if that . his mid range game may be the top 10 in lg and i feel if it isn't broken then don't the fix it. a bucket is a bucket no matter how it goes in .i fear that we may shoot our selves out of games w/ to many 3 attempts.

    imma comment on the 3 pointer attempts in the dunlap preseason thread ,because im seeing some kinks in dunlaps coaching.
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    Gerald should take 3s if he's got open looks. Hard to judge without seeing the games but if the defense is giving hendo open 3s he has to take them, and its not Dunlaps fault if he doesnt make them. letting the opposing SG/SF sag off and roam around in the passing lanes/paint bogs down an offense so bad and it also hurts offensive rebounding. if Hendo can't hit open 3s its time he hit the bench. with him and MKG in there starting there just isnt enough offensive firepower on the wings to get anything going. Gordon as a 6th man scorer might be a luxury we cant afford.

    hendo can put in a nice 15 points but its a tough tough 15 points, running him around double screens, those difficult post up shots almost everything from mid range. Gordon is more versatile which helps make everyone else better around him

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm in training View Post
    so far this whole preseason gerald's been shooting very well and his assist numbers been good ,but im scared that he may start taking to many 3's. hendo's game just isn't suitable for taking at least more than 2 three pointer attempts,if that . his mid range game may be the top 10 in lg and i feel if it isn't broken then don't the fix it. a bucket is a bucket no matter how it goes in .i fear that we may shoot our selves out of games w/ to many 3 attempts.

    imma comment on the 3 pointer attempts in the dunlap preseason thread ,because im seeing some kinks in dunlaps coaching.
    I think it's imperative that Henderson start taking a lot more 3's. For him to be a starting-caliber SG in this league, he's going have to at bare minimum be a threat to attempt more 3-pointers. To this point in his career, it's rare that he even attempts them, much less makes them. This makes it much, much easier to lay off him, hinder his ability to get to the rim and as CatNation points out, bogs down the whole offense. That part absolutely needs to change, especially if MKG is our SF going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatNation View Post

    Gerald should take 3s if he's got open looks. Hard to judge without seeing the games but if the defense is giving hendo open 3s he has to take them, and its not Dunlaps fault if he doesnt make them. letting the opposing SG/SF sag off and roam around in the passing lanes/paint bogs down an offense so bad and it also hurts offensive rebounding. if Hendo can't hit open 3s its time he hit the bench. with him and MKG in there starting there just isnt enough offensive firepower on the wings to get anything going. Gordon as a 6th man scorer might be a luxury we cant afford.

    hendo can put in a nice 15 points but its a tough tough 15 points, running him around double screens, those difficult post up shots almost everything from mid range. Gordon is more versatile which helps make everyone else better around him
    im sorry but hendo's 3 pt ability will not be the reason we lose games. if anything hendo's all-around around offensive game should make others open.im sorry to keep disappointing everyone but mkg may not ever be a star; dnt get me wrong he will be a good team player that helps win games but mkg dosn't have the offensive skill set or let alone can even shoot the ball effectively/correctly to become an offensive factor. so with that being said, mkg wil be the odd man out in the rotation not hendo. thats why dunlap most effective line-up is when gordon and hendo is in, not mkg and gordon.

    gordon being a great out shooter doesn't make him versatile especially when he's a one sided player who doesn't offer much but scoring?

    shooting/making 3's is an privilege that can be taken out of context . its easier to score closer to the basket than it is further away . thats why the lg avg in 3 pt% is 35 and the avg fg % is around 45 . the object of the game is to get closer to the basket , thats why post players are at a premium not 3 point shooters . and, if hendo is an guard that can post up , come off screens, and penetrate then let him play his game because there are not many players who can do all three(the one's that can are all-stars) .

    Quote Originally Posted by scottley crue View Post

    I think it's imperative that Henderson start taking a lot more 3's. For him to be a starting-caliber SG in this league, he's going have to at bare minimum be a threat to attempt more 3-pointers. To this point in his career, it's rare that he even attempts them, much less makes them. This makes it much, much easier to lay off him, hinder his ability to get to the rim and as CatNation points out, bogs down the whole offense. That part absolutely needs to change, especially if MKG is our SF going forward
    i don't think its required for an starting guard to make 3's just the same way; a starting point guard doesn't have court vision or past first mentality(westbrook), a pf who cant rebound(stoudamire), or a center who doesn't have any post play(okeafor). as a coach you hide your players discrepancies and highlight their strengths,but at the same time get them to buy in your philosophy . if hendo isn't a good 3 pt shooter ,wow who cares ?! he can do about 10 other things other guards dnt or can't do.side note, most teams have about 2 shooters in their rotations. if we have sessions,gordon,hendo,mullen,and biz as our primary(not starting) line-up that gives us more than enough shooting power without hendo taking numerous 3's?
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    Hendos problem isnt just that he can't shoot 3s. His problem is he can't really do anything particularly well. His greatest strength is shooting the least efficient shot in basketball slightly more efficiently than most other players at his position. He's pretty much the definition of mediocrity at the SG position. If your teams primary option on offense is Gerald Henderson mid range jumpshots at 50% TS you're going to be well...we all saw last year.


 

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