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    Super SWedd is here to help you out Woody. Instead of doing it the long way by clicking on individual players, bballref lets you put them on the same page and compare them.

    This link will take you to the page to compare Kemba, DJ, and Felts according to how they produced while in Charlotte.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...usdj01&y3=2012


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    Quote Originally Posted by SWedd523 View Post
    Super SWedd is here to help you out Woody. Instead of doing it the long way by clicking on individual players, bballref lets you put them on the same page and compare them.

    This link will take you to the page to compare Kemba, DJ, and Felts according to how they produced while in Charlotte.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...usdj01&y3=2012
    It's depressing looking at the stats of the 3 "best" PGs over our history. Hopefully Kemba changes that around.
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    Felton historically accomplished more, so he deserves the title of best Bobcats point guard ever. He worked hard here, wanted to win here, led the team and was a good ambassador for the Bobcats.

    That said, Kemba will pass him. I know a couple folks around here love to hate Kemba, and have completely written him off already, but judging him based on last season is ridiculous. No coaching, no team, no one even tried to play competitive basketball.... except Kemba. No hype, hes got a long way to go, but if you can't watch him and see that he can do anything most great point guards in the league can do (especially with the garbage surrounding him last year) then we are obviously watching different games.

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    As a caveat, how many PGs that didn't eventually become top 3 at their position start out with as crappy a team as we've consistently assembled and did well?
    Hope Resurrected: "I think I can bring an attitude to a team as far as, All right, no matter what, we are not losing this game'." - Kemba Walker

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    This thread was started a couple of years too early IMO..

    Kemba may prove to be the best one day, but as it is, he might not even be the best PG on this current team.
    Sessions is better right now IMO, they are different players and Kemba will have good games but Sess is consistent and will take minutes away from Kemba this season for sure. Unless the first year head coach goes into tank mode. Ill give Kemba an edge on D but he is far from a 'lock-down' defender.

    *Braces self for attack*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Felton historically accomplished more, so he deserves the title of best Bobcats point guard ever. He worked hard here, wanted to win here, led the team and was a good ambassador for the Bobcats.

    That said, Kemba will pass him. I know a couple folks around here love to hate Kemba, and have completely written him off already, but judging him based on last season is ridiculous. No coaching, no team, no one even tried to play competitive basketball.... except Kemba. No hype, hes got a long way to go, but if you can't watch him and see that he can do anything most great point guards in the league can do (especially with the garbage surrounding him last year) then we are obviously watching different games.
    sorry but kemba has shown very little ability to see the p&r develop and no consistency to either hit the roll man or the off man open from the defensive rotation at all. this is a fundamental element of the nba game. this what needs to develop in his second year. if it does not, i predict he will end up being the 6th man role most predicted him to be.

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    It's not that depressing when you consider that it's only been 9 years. The part that is depressing is that we ran 2 PGs that were lottery picks out of town and now we're working on a 3rd. I'm pretty sure that even a storied franchise like the Celtics had to go through just as long of a span dealing with washed up veterans (i.e. Kenny Anderson, Gary Payton, Tony Delk, etc.) and projects that didn't pan out (i.e. Marcus Banks, Milt Palacio, Sebastian Telfair, etc.) before landing Rajon Rondo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spectre View Post
    As a caveat, how many PGs that didn't eventually become top 3 at their position start out with as crappy a team as we've consistently assembled and did well?
    Rajon Rondo

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan_of_a_fan View Post
    Rajon Rondo
    Nope.

    First off Rondo has an argument for one of the top 3-5 PGs today, but look at his early years in regards to efficiency and true shooting %:

    1st - .472 TS% .424 eFG%
    2nd - .515 TS% .496 eFG% (added KG/Allen)
    3rd - .543 TS% .514 eFG%

    ...and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spectre View Post
    Nope.

    First off Rondo has an argument for one of the top 3-5 PGs today, but look at his early years in regards to efficiency and true shooting %:

    1st - .472 TS% .424 eFG%
    2nd - .515 TS% .496 eFG% (added KG/Allen)
    3rd - .543 TS% .514 eFG%

    ...and so on.
    Oh, I must have misunderstood your question. I thought you were asking us to name a player(s) that has became a top 3 PG that started off on a team as crappy as ours. Actually, Kemba had a better rookie season statistically than Rajon Rondo. We as Bobcats fans have to have patience with him. There are bigger problems to be addressed than our PG situation. We have young players that were picked ahead of Kemba that are currently showing way more question marks in Biz & MKG.

    Kemba Walker Rookie Stats (w/ per 36): 12.1 (16.1) PPG, 4.4 (5.8 ) APG, 3.5 (4.7) RPG, 1.8 (2.4) TOV, .464 TS%, .411 eFG%., 14.9 PER

    Rajon Rondo Rookie Stats (w/ per 36): 6.4 (9.9) PPG, 3.8 (5.8 ) APG, 3.7 (5.7) RPG, 1.8 (2.7) TOV, .472 TS%, .424 eFG%, 13.1 PER


 

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