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    Quote Originally Posted by CatNation View Post
    A lot of people had negative preconceptions about Kemba, saw his first season, thought it confirmed those preconceptions so they chalked themselves up as draft gurus and essentially closed the book on Kembas career. Really hard to change something like that, people love feeling like they really nailed something.
    It really does comes down to that...Had Lillard been some 19 year old kid and put up these same stats...I would not even fathom comparing the two, because to me it would seem that Lillard would have 3 more years to become an even greater guard by the time he's 22...

    But in this scenario, they are the same age and are putting up the same stats...Neither will get taller, neither will get faster, they probably won't get much bigger...So to predict one will be better than the other is to say, "I know for sure that player A, will work harder than player B"...or even more ridiculous is, "player A will develop better skills than player B"...

    I feel like I've wasted enough time trying argue that one simple point...I'll just watch both of them play and enjoy seeing them develop into stars...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OfficialBobcatsHD View Post
    Either you don't get my argument or you're purposefully choosing to ignore it...I'M NOT SAYING THEY AREN'T ROOKIES...I'M SAYING THAT AGE IS MORE IMPORTANT WHEN JUDGING A PLAYER'S "CEILING" THAN JUST THE FACT THAT SOMEONE IS A ROOKIE...If MKG came out at 25 or 26 and did what he's doing now...would you be as impressed? But wouldn't he still be a rookie? and averaging 12/7? The fact that he's 19 makes what he does that much more significant...

    If Barnes and MKG came out one year apart but had the same stats...I wouldn't say the person who came out the year later has better potential...

    Let me put it this way...THIS IS KEMBA AND LILLARD'S 5TH YEAR OF ORGANIZED BASKETBALL OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL...They are putting up similar numbers...I can easily assume they have the same ceiling...I can't make it any clearer than that...
    OK I've went back a little bit. CEILING isn't determined by age (assuming we're talking 19-22) nor how long they've played organized ball IMO. How do you determine a guy's ceiling anyway at this stage unless they're showing absolute star potential like Kobe, Duncan, etc.?

    I'm curious on how anyone can think they can determine just how good a guy is going to be (sans superstar play) at any point during that age range? I don't think you can do it with either of the guys being argued about here nor can you about MKG.

    My point in the other post regarding age DOES pose more "hope" however in a player reaching a higher ceiling if for no other reason than the game is coming to him more naturally without more organized play.

    Least that's my opinion.
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