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    Default The Definitive Trade Ideas Thread

    Have a totally awesome trade idea? Got something you want opinions on? Think you know just what the team needs? This is the place for you.

    Use this thread for all manner of trade ideas, whether realistic or not.

    -ESPN's Trade Machine is a great place to start to help organize/visualize your ideas http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
    -Try to be as clear as possible when describing the players, picks, or money going either way
    -Add a description if you can on why you think the trade should go down


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    1. reason why it will not happen. okc and miami are not interested in helping each other out.

    cats out: diop (7.6 expiring), blazers pick
    cats in: joel anthony (3.8 for 3y), mike miller (6.2 avg for 3 y), raptors pick (top 3, top 2, top 1 and unprotected by year) from okc, jeremy lamb or perry jones (okc chooses)

    miami out: anthony, miller and philly pick
    miami in: kendrick perkins (8.5 avg for 3 years)

    okc out: perkins, either jones or lamb, raptors pick
    okc in: diop, philly pick (lotto protected 3 years, then it becomes 2 seconds in 2015 and 16), blazers pick

    potential changes: i would add mulley back to thunder if they give us the choice of pj or lamb or switch it to the detroit pick and mulley for both players.

    why for cats: take on salary but get a much better draft pick. potential two top 5 picks in either this draft or next. we need to spend the money anyway and this keeps us from playing ourselves out of the top 10 picks. we could probably arrange a favorable buyout for miller and/or anthony or trade anthony later. plus we add one (maybe two) great young assets.

    why for miami: lose dead weight salary. miller is completely redundant and injury prone and at 6 mil for three years very expensive with miami already in the LT. add perkins who is one of the better interior big defenders for the playoffs, when size matters (grizz in particular). don't think they have a problem giving up philly's pick as it will either be not used or be a late first which are expensive when you are already in the LT.

    why for okc: get out of perk's deal to save money later on and keep from having to amnesty him. reposition assets. they get a little less exciting as assets but the move saves a ton of money and gives added flexibility for title runs now.

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    Great deal for the Bobcats and the Heat, not so sure if the Thunder would go through with it. Perkins deserves more credit than you gave him.

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    What about this one?

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c8pax33

    Bobcats out: Gerald Henderson, DeSagana Diop
    Bobcats in : Travis Outlaw, James Johnson, Tony Wroten

    Sacramento out: Demarcus Cousins, Travis Outlaw, James Johnson
    Sacramento in : Kendrick Perkins, Gerald Henderson, Quincy Pondexter, Perry Jones III

    Oklahoma City out: Kendrick Perkins, Nick Collison, Perry Jones III
    Oklahoma City in : Desagana Diop, Demarcus Cousins

    Memphis out: Quincy Pondexter, Tony Wroten
    Memphis in : Nick Collison

    I know this trade is doomed to fail, mainly because Cousins is in it, but I like it for the Bobcats.
    Last edited by isguros; 11-30-2012 at 01:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isguros View Post
    What about this one?

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c8pax33

    Bobcats out: Gerald Henderson, DeSagana Diop
    Bobcats in : Travis Outlaw, James Johnson, Tony Wroten

    Sacramento out: Demarcus Cousins, Travis Outlaw, James Johnson
    Sacramento in : Kendrick Perkins, Gerald Wallace, Quincy Pondexter, Perry Jones III

    Oklahoma City out: Kendrick Perkins, Nick Collison, Perry Jones III
    Oklahoma City in : Desagana Diop, Demarcus Cousins

    Memphis out: Quincy Pondexter, Tony Wroten
    Memphis in : Nick Collison

    I know this trade is doomed to fail, mainly because Cousins is in it, but I like it for the Bobcats.
    i was so confused as to where gerald wallace came from then clicked the link and see you meant hendo.

    as it is,
    terrible for the kings. one because of cousins and only getting back perkins. but they are overfilled at sg so hendo is of no use to them. they would also need the toronto pick from okc to even consider it. maybe swap out tyreke to us? don't think they go for it, evans is crazy overrated for all the garbage he brings.

    basically, this is horrible for us outside of the prospect of wroten. we would need at least a pick from okc or a stashed pick from memphis for facilitating this trade. okc makes out like bandits. basically a terrible contract in perkins and an enormous upgrade at center and all they have to throw in is pj3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isguros View Post
    What about this one?

    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c8pax33

    Bobcats out: Gerald Henderson, DeSagana Diop
    Bobcats in : Travis Outlaw, James Johnson, Tony Wroten

    Sacramento out: Demarcus Cousins, Travis Outlaw, James Johnson
    Sacramento in : Kendrick Perkins, Gerald Henderson, Quincy Pondexter, Perry Jones III

    Oklahoma City out: Kendrick Perkins, Nick Collison, Perry Jones III
    Oklahoma City in : Desagana Diop, Demarcus Cousins

    Memphis out: Quincy Pondexter, Tony Wroten
    Memphis in : Nick Collison

    I know this trade is doomed to fail, mainly because Cousins is in it, but I like it for the Bobcats.
    I like this trade a lot for us. But no way the kings will get rid of Big Cuz, dude has hella potential he's the 2nd best center in the league (minus Bynum)

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    Why does anyone like this trade? Outlaw is an average underachiever. James Johnson turning into a journeyman and doesnt add that much. Wroten is an okay prospect but nothing special. I know this gets us rid of Diop, but why not just wait and amnesty him next year.

    Also lets not forget about Perkins, OKC were happier to get rid of Harden than trade or Amnesty Perks. He is massive to that team in more ways than numbers, he has taught the team toughness and togetherness. There would be a lockeroom revolt if he was simply traded away for a headcase like Cousins.


    On other news, anyone see the Kings being interested in a simple swap of Henderson for T- Robinson?

    They have Thompson locked up long term and don't really have a strong defensive 2 guard- I am not sure how much the Kings like Robinson with his below average start to the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isguros View Post
    Great deal for the Bobcats and the Heat, not so sure if the Thunder would go through with it. Perkins deserves more credit than you gave him.
    they are seriously considering amnestying him next year to avoid the tax

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    Chef, no way OKC gives up all of that just to clear some cap room.

    Isguros, I don't think there's any way SAC considers that trade for Cousins
    Last edited by SWedd523; 11-30-2012 at 03:28 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SWedd523 View Post
    Chef, no way OKC gives up all of that just to clear some cap room.

    Isguros, I don't think there's any way SAC considers that trade for Cousins
    what if a 4th team was added.
    we ship hendo to the wolves and derrick williams goes to okc. the philly pick goes to minn.

    so if you are okc it is: perkins, lamb and toronto pick for diop, williams and blazers pick.

    for us it is: hendo and diop and blazers pick for anthony, miller, lamb and toronto pick.

    for minn: it is derrick williams for hendo and philly pick

    for miami: anthony, miller and philly pick for perkins

    i think that is beneficial for everyone involved.


 

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