The Definitive Trade Ideas Thread

[isguros]

Definitely, but I doubt the kings will offer it.

[SWedd523]

I'd move this deal to the trade thread stickied at the top of the correct section

[SWedd523]

As for the trade, we're giving up a TON to get basically Cousins, because Robinson hasn't been very impressive thus far.


While Cousins is a great young player, he has an attitude problem and Bismack (worth a lottery pick), Taylor (should've been a lottery pick), and two potential lottery picks PLUS Mully is too rich a price. Only way I trade for Cousins is if we keep Bismack and let him and MKG punk Cousins into dropping his attitude issues

EDIT: The trade I'd consider for Cousins is http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=czyxegx


Cousins + Salmons

for

Hendo + Mully + Diop + Detroit 1st



Fair price IMO but they probably wouldn't consider it because a $1 talent is more valuable than 3 $.50 pieces. I'd consider switching Diop and the DET pick for Sessions and POR but then we're getting into a situation where Kemba has no backup other than Higgins

[Chef]

I have lost track which trade thread this should go in, so just going to put it in both. Come at me Mods!

TRADE 1:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ayaojaj

Bobcats in: Arnett Moultrie/76ers 2014 1st rounder/ Sacremento 2013 2nd rounder

Bobcats Out: Gerald Henderson


76ers in: Henderson/ James Johnson

76ers out: 2014 1st round pick/ Arnett Moultrie/ Dorrell Wright


Sacremento in: Dorrell Wright

Sacremento out: James Johnson/ 2013 2nd rounder


Maybe get a 2nd for Sacremento from somewhere... not sure if they do that but I like the framework. Got the idea after Doug Collins came out saying he wanted some bench scoring, at first I thought Gordon but his salary didn't fit for anyone so went onto Hendo.

TRADE 2:

I can't trade machine this one as Sessions is not tradable until the 15th of Dec but the details are below, little more simplistic than the one above.

I have been thinking about Tyreke for Hendo a lot to be honest. I am a massive fan of Evans, I know his game doesn't fit any system and he doesn't have a position but didn't people say similar things about Kemba? I think Dunlap would go back to Evan's rookie year and break down the tape to see his strengths, much like he did with Kemba at UCon.

I keep hearing Evans is on the block (along with Jimmer and James Johnson). Plus Sacremento doesn't really have a good defensive two guard, they have however recently given Thornton a 7.5 3 year contract though, but they are bringing him off the bench at the moment, my guess is he got a contract and got lazy- he seems to fit that character from what I have seen of him. Hendo could also play some 3 for them as at the moment none of their small forwards are anything to write home about ( Salmons, Outlaw, Honeycutt, Garcia).

But anyway, ontot the trade. Somethin like:

Hendo/Sessions

Tyreke/James Johnson

This would allow us to play with Tyreke as ball handler and let kemba play off the ball (like we do with sessions) but gain in the the height/ rebounding/ which would help us quite a bit. Tyreke would pretty much just fill the role Sessions has now but give us more on the defensive side and give us some more ft attepmts (Dunlap's own form of Viagra it appears).

James Johnson is a decent defender and gives us another PF who can do some good things, I have always been impressed with him when I have seen him play. But I am sure theres a reason he has never cracked a rotation in SAC and been on 3 teams in 4 years.

Feel free to give or take from this trade, even add another team in if you want but I like it

Only negative is we could lose Tyreke to FA for nothing...

philly has already traded 2013 pick to miami. means they can't trade another until it is conveyed.

[Chef]

As for the trade, we're giving up a TON to get basically Cousins, because Robinson hasn't been very impressive thus far.


While Cousins is a great young player, he has an attitude problem and Bismack (worth a lottery pick), Taylor (should've been a lottery pick), and two potential lottery picks PLUS Mully is too rich a price. Only way I trade for Cousins is if we keep Bismack and let him and MKG punk Cousins into dropping his attitude issues

EDIT: The trade I'd consider for Cousins is http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=czyxegx


Cousins + Salmons

for

Hendo + Mully + Diop + Detroit 1st



Fair price IMO but they probably wouldn't consider it because a $1 talent is more valuable than 3 $.50 pieces. I'd consider switching Diop and the DET pick for Sessions and POR but then we're getting into a situation where Kemba has no backup other than Higgins

i don't think it is a fair price. we are making out too good. cousins in such a good talent. that said, i think the price is too high to acquire cousins. he really needs to go to a veteran team where he is either made to fall in line or shows himself out of the league.

[SWedd523]

Yeah it would hinge on their desire to rid the locker room of knuckleheads. Theoretically guys like Tyreke are first to go, but Cousins has already had a blowup with a previous coach so it's not out of the realm of possibility. He's just not a good target for us at this point unless we get a steal

[Bogg]

Sacramento isn't trading Cousins for anything less than a perennial all-star just entering his prime, and they aren't moving Thomas Robinson for a guard of similar value. If we're going to talk Sacramento, the trade to be made is a risk-reward deal for Tyreke Evans, most likely built around Henderson. Henderson will never be the type of scorer that Evans has the talent to be, but you're betting that Evans gets his head screwed on straight and won't wind up a cautionary tale. Charlotte also gives up a good amount of defense and maturity, and you'll have to pay Evans more in free agency than you would Henderson.

[RMT]

Bobcats Get:J.Valanciunas & Ed Davis

Raptors Get:Jeff Taylor,Byron Mullens,and Biz + Blazers Pick.

Raptors get 2 young studs in Biz & Taylor to rebuild around and we get our francise center in Valanciunas.

Bobcats New Lineup.
PG:Kemba/Sessons
SG:Henderson/Gordon
SF:MKG/Reggie Williams
PF: Davis/Tyrus/Adrien
C:Valanciunas/Haywood/Diop

[Plowright]

I am not really an ed davis fan, but I do like Valanciunas... Something tells me the Raps didnt draft him and then wait for a year to then just trade him away during his rookie season

[Bogg]

Raptors get 2 young studs in Biz & Taylor to rebuild around and we get our francise center in Valanciunas.

Raptors get a project and a rotation guy for a project with a higher ceiling. They hang up.